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When I hear someone make a statement sans quantifier, I assume a universal quantifier.

For example when I hear someone say "I love dogs", I take that to mean "I love all dogs" and not "I love some dogs".

Is that valid? Does lack of a quantifier imply a universal quantifier?

If someone answers yes or no, I'd appreciate a cite.

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    You can assume all you like, but language is not formal logic, and it doesn't work to assume it is. When I say "I like dogs" I certainly don't mean "I like every dog that ever was or will be". I probably mean something like "I like most dogs of kinds that I'm likely to encounter"
    – Colin Fine
    Commented Mar 5, 2016 at 21:33

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“I love dogs” is offered as an example, and the opening statement does not restrict the no-quantifier-means-universal-quantifier thesis to the verb love. But everyone will agree that there is no implicit all in the following headline:

‘They might have guns, but we have flowers’: Video shows father reassuring son in wake of Paris attacks

It is not meant all guns or all flowers. But focussing on love now, I can think of lots of examples of the type I love X where people generally, and I most definitely, do not mean I love all X.

Shall we start with sex? When I hear someone say they love sex I take it to mean that sex is an activity they enjoy a lot, but I would never think they enjoy all sex.

I love books. I really do. Not all of them though. When I say I love books I mean reading books is one of my favourite activities, but I am actually quite selective as to the books I read.

And when people say they love dogs they do not necessarily mean they love all dogs. Perhaps some do. But most probably mean they like dogs in general, but would likely not love the neighbour’s dog that kept barking all night, or chasing their cat, etc.

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This is a case of a "sticking qualifier". The statement is a general statement, an overly basic sentence. Includes affection, with a specific word as the qualifier (love). Might even be a verb, as basic sentence composition would dictate.

In this case, the person loves dogs in general, but might not like x or y, or most. "Dogs" in this sentence is a singular object of affection, the plural form of the word dog.

Thus, there is no qualifier, but a sticking feeling thanks to generalizing. Akin to saying: I do things.

No, there is no qualifier there, implied or otherwise. One might try to play with undertones, or sarcasm, which would carry extra info, but since these are just characters on a screen, i don't hear it. It is valid, but instead of a qualifier, there is a missing sentence fragment. "I love dogs, in general./mostly"

"Does lack of a quantifier imply a universal quantifier?"

Depends on personal preference. Generally speaking, assume most.

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  • Do you have a reference for "sticking qualifier"?
    – deadrat
    Commented Mar 5, 2016 at 22:12
  • There's a good reason i put it into quotes - it's an observation, explained. I don't have a reference on me, because i think i was the first to coin it. Or coined it after someone coined it and i don't know of it yet, googled it and have nothing but this and some other, mostly unrelated links. Confidence and careful reasoning backs it, i guess. Feel free to vote down.
    – Sakatox
    Commented Mar 5, 2016 at 22:23
  • Then your answer is quite confused. You say there's no qualifier "implied or otherwise," but apparently this doesn't apply to "sticking qualifiers." The term qualifier is already taken. It means a classifying or restricting modifier (like quite in my first sentence) and doesn't apply to verbs. The sentence is an unquantified general expression of affection, so much so that a native speaker would be surprised to hear "Really? How many?" (Or "what percentage?") There are some tricky aspects of using a countable noun like this. Compare I like dog and I like dogs.
    – deadrat
    Commented Mar 5, 2016 at 23:35
  • Be all that as it may. I asked because I thought you were using a term of general reference. I'm not much of a downvoter.
    – deadrat
    Commented Mar 5, 2016 at 23:36
  • A general statement has an implicit qualifier, which is general. Generalizing. Whatever that means in context, which then, sort of leaks into the actual meaning one wants to pilfer. Hence the sticking. A qualifier where there isn't.
    – Sakatox
    Commented Mar 5, 2016 at 23:56
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Yes, a null quantifier (without a definite article) is universal (although it may be nuanced to mean 'most' instead instead of 'all' {In 'practical' logic, universals are allowed to have exceptions}).

All instances of a noun have a quantifier, which links to the universal. Although we have universal quantifiers ('all', 'every', 'any'), they need not be stored. 'A cat' is 'one of [every] cat' {not 'one of every of "cat"}. Note that the plural forms are less precise than the singular: '[All] cats have legs and tails' vs 'Every cat has legs and a tail'.

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  • You're confusing the way you might like English to work with the way most people use it. A person saying 'I love dogs' almost certainly doesn't mean to include ones that have savaged children. Commented Mar 7, 2016 at 0:12
  • No, I am saying that people use fuzzy logic, so our universals implicitly have exceptions; otherwise we'd have very few universals and would have to say things like: I love each and every dog, regardless of circumstances... (PS: we can love the sinner and hate the sin)
    – AmI
    Commented Mar 7, 2016 at 22:01
  • But I'm saying that ELU is usage-orientated rather than logic-orientated. Answering '... when I hear someone say "I love dogs", I take that to mean "I love all dogs" and not "I love some dogs". Is that valid?' with 'Yes' is incorrect. (PS we're supposed to both love and hate sinners: "You hate all who do evil." (Ps 5:5; NLT) Commented Mar 7, 2016 at 22:15
  • 'Usage' is usage oriented, but memory is logic oriented. It is more economical to store 'I love dogs' and have other knowledge do the patch: (he must mean 'most', not 'all'). My point is that the universal quantifier may really be 'null' in memory; so 'dogs are mammals' is equivalent to 'all dogs are mammals', and is not equivalent to 'most dogs are mammals' (and knowledge of exceptions keeps the brain from blowing up when it learns about 'robot dogs'). (PS: Simultaneous loving and hating is a paradox I'd rather avoid.)
    – AmI
    Commented May 10, 2016 at 19:10
  • Colin Fine's 'comment' addresses the pragmatics of the situation more clearly. "In 'practical' logic, universals are allowed to have exceptions" sounds like a fudge, and I'd like to see an authority making this claim (or rather, I wouldn't). '[L]anguage is not formal logic, and it doesn't work to assume it is.' Commented May 10, 2016 at 22:16
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Many people are imprecise or downright ignorant in their language use. They might say something that literally means one thing when they actually meant something else. For example, a person with poor language skills might say "I didn't get nothing" when he really meant "I didn't get anything". The words that he said literally mean that he DID get something, but that isn't what the person intended it to mean. Similarly, when someone says "I love dogs", those words, taken literally, imply that the person loves all dogs, but that is probably not what the person means. So the answer to your question is that the statement "I love dogs" literally implies that the person loves all dogs, but the person was probably being imprecise in his language usage and probably didn't mean that.

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  • Welcome to English Language & Usage! Please edit to add citations to reliable sources that support the assertions made here. Unsourced material may be disputed or deleted.
    – NVZ
    Commented May 18, 2017 at 11:59
  • I love posts that manage to work "literally" into literally every sentence. Commented May 18, 2017 at 15:41

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