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In a passage I've just proofread, the writer had put

  • She denies any change in mood nor any sweating.

The "nor" just sounded wrong to me; I usually do my grammar by instinct, but when I'm unsure I check it. Most of the references I can find say that "nor" should come after a negative verb phrase. I suppose the writer's argument is that "deny" is sufficiently negative to replace "neither" in this case, but it grates my ear. Guidance, please?

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    Yes, "deny" is a covertly negative item. It can be paraphrased as "She says that she hasn't /hadn't had any change change in mood". There is no possibility of adding and or or before "nor" here, so there is good reason to treat nor as a negative coordinator. Nevertheless, the context is insufficiently negative to justify "nor", so it should be "or".
    – BillJ
    Commented Dec 14, 2016 at 19:51

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In this case, trust your instincts. Both "change in mood" and "sweating" are targets of she denies which is what she does in this clause. "She doesn't deny" or "She denies neither" would invert the verb. That doesn't happen here.

Extensively, any time you see nor without a parallel neither or a literal or conjunctive not, it will be out of place. There are very few exceptions to this rule.

See also: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/grammar/british-grammar/questions-and-negative-sentences/neither-neither-nor-and-not-either

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Google claims 1,240,000 hits for "denied all the charges", but only 151,000 hits for "denied any of the charges". And some of the latter are false hits where the reason for using "any" is an earlier negative, e.g. "neither admitted nor denied any of the charges" or "he had never denied any of the charges".

This suggests that, to express multiple denials, you may treat the verb "deny" as a positive verb, not as a negative one.

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  • Far better than 'trust your instincts,' even with the 'In this case' caveat. Though I suppose 'She denies any incompetence nor [any] wrongdoing.' sound so awful that instincts suffice here for most native speakers. Commented Apr 25, 2022 at 11:14
  • Google search numbers are not reliable. You should either not use the numbers or use a reliable corpus tool instead.
    – Laurel
    Commented Apr 25, 2022 at 11:16
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Trust hawkeyegold and please also note couple of lesser niggles.

Is ‘proofread’ in any way relevant here? Would it make any difference if you’d simply said ‘read’, please?

Do you think ‘it grates my ear’ is correct? I’ve never heard it put that way but always ‘it grates on my hearing’.

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