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I'm drafting a text about music theory and, when looking for a way to describe the progress of steps between a note's octaves, the expression "looping spectrum" came to mind. I'm sure something like "note wheel" would be more elegant but, merely for the sake of curiosity: can a spectrum's ends come together?

Note: an almost identical question was asked here but I'm afraid the answers were not very helpful.

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    I think 'spectrum' does imply separate extremes (as the answers to the other question seem to suggest). Commented Feb 13, 2021 at 16:21
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    It is relevant here that the paradigm of a spectrum, the spectrum of colours, is often represented as a wheel. That suggests an answer to the question, but does not conclusively settle it, because one may still wonder whether one should use the word spectrum in the same context in which one thinks of colours as arranged on a wheel.
    – jsw29
    Commented Feb 13, 2021 at 16:32
  • Some research (dictionary definition/s and example sentences) is needed. M-W's 'a continuous sequence or range _a wide spectrum of interests / opposite ends of the political spectrum?' would hint strongly that spectra are seen as non-circular. On a 'colour chart' there is often included a non-spectral 'purple' gradience to join the free ends. Commented Feb 13, 2021 at 16:55
  • Another term that captures the idea is gamut, very similar to spectrum but (to my ear) without the sense of definite limits
    – Jim Mack
    Commented Feb 13, 2021 at 17:10

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Spectrum =

a range of different positions, opinions, etc. between two extreme points

the set of colours into which a beam of light can be separated, or a range of waves, such as light waves or radio waves:

a range of objects, ideas, or opinions

a range of similar things

Cambridge

Range =

a set of similar things

the amount, number, or type of something between an upper and a lower limit

Cambridge

From these definitions there is one strong sense that a spectrum lies between two extremes. This seems to apply to your notes and their octaves: there will be a lowest note and a highest note, being some multiple of two higher frequency than the lowest. The spectrum lies between them.

This spanning between extremes is not necessarily implied by all the definitions, which also admit of a “range” that is a set without extremes. To apply this to your octaves seems loose, ignoring the sequencing of the notes as we progress to higher frequencies.

Even when a range is bounded by two extremes, they may be so near or similar that they close the ends, making the range circular rather than linear. Examples might be the spectra that extend from madness to genius, from west to east, from the extreme authoritarianism of the Left to the equally extreme authoritarianism of the Right.

This concept of circularlity does not apply to your lowest and highest notes: they are separated by their very different frequencies. Your spectrum is plucked from (in principle, if not in practice) an infinite spectrum extending from infinitely low to infinitely high, so the extremes of any such spectrum cannot be considered close to each other. The spectrum remains linear; it cannot be made circular.

If you are only speaking of the way in which notes within an octave increase in frequency from the lowest note up to twice that frequency in the highest note, you may be speaking of an "intra-octave" spectrum of frequencies relative to the lowest and ending at twice the lowest. This intra-octave spectrum will of course be the same for any octave you consider.

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  • So then does a circle have a "full spectrum" of degrees?
    – Davo
    Commented Feb 13, 2021 at 22:51
  • @Davo I have to say yes, given my example above of west - east. 180 degrees west = 180 degrees east, closing the circle. But I would not use the argument without demonstrating some such strong connection of the extremes. John Lawler’s point about modulus is also relevant: for example, 360 mod (360) = 0, 720 mod (360) = 0, etc etc
    – Anton
    Commented Feb 14, 2021 at 8:45
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Actual electromagnetic spectra do not have endpoints, except in that spectrographs have observational limits -- a prism will not generate a spectrum that's far outside visible light frequencies. And of course if one is investigating spectral lines, there will always be a shortest and a longest in frequency on any spectrum. But it's just the orderly continuous series of values that counts as a spectrum.

In metaphoric use, these properties seem to be constant. A spectrum of opinions will have extreme cases, but only because there is a gradient, and all finite ordered sets have maximum and minimum elements by virtue of the trichotomy law. Similarly for a spectrum of spicy dishes, a spectrum of musical notes, a spectrum of travel alternatives, or whatever one is metaphorizing into a spectrum.

But that doesn't mean that the scale stops at the highest and lowest instances; the scale they're arranged on -- the cline, the ordering -- goes on, unless it happens that the set is closed and the maximum and minimum points actually occur at the maximum and minimum possible values of the scale. (Ordered sets can be half-closed at either end.)

And there's no reason why the scale can't loop back. It's just a case of modulo arithmetic; each note gets repeated in a higher key the same way 8:30 loops around from morning to evening every day. It's still 8:30, but it's a different 8:30, the same way High C is still C, but a different C.

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    Different 8:30 / C: separate extremes. The EMR spectrum doesn't loop. Commented Feb 13, 2021 at 19:09
  • True. But this is a metaphor, and they pay no attention to consistency. Commented Feb 13, 2021 at 19:16
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    I knew I should have stuck with science. Commented Feb 13, 2021 at 19:22
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The word "spectrum" in science started with light, which just like sound can have a frequency that is as low or as high as you can wish. In practice, there will be physical limits, but there is no set maximum frequency of light - it just gets harder and harder to generate.

From light, the term spread by analogy to other areas, and you could almost say that the common thread going through all of them is precisely that they do not loop, but extend (usually smoothly) over a range. And the range might be infinite.

Having said that, though, it's your metaphor. Sound has a very legitimate spectrum in the physical sense with a close analogy to light, and, from a physics point of view, 440 Hz is a totally different frequency than 880. So it doesn't loop. But perceptually it kind of does.

So I would say, No, the ends of a spectrum cannot come together, but the ends of an octave do line up in a special way that make the phrase "looping spectrum" not entirely unreasonable.

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There is no looping that happens in a spectrum. A tiny portion of the electromagnetic spectrum is in the form of visible light.

from https://electromagneticspectrumscience.weebly.com/visible-light.html

The extremes of visible light range from red to violet. Below red is infrared and above violet is ultraviolet, but these are not visible to the human eye.

The color wheel portrays primary and secondary colors as a looping circle. While red and violet can be adjacent in some of these color wheels, there is no loop in real life: red has infrared next to it (which humans can't see) and violet has ultraviolet next to it (which humans can't see). The first visible-light spectrum pictured above is better conceptually than the color wheel because there is a red doesn't loop back to violet; it just keeps on going.

On a pitch pipe, one can see that the notes continuously circle. But are A and G# extremes of a looping spectrum? A little reflection will reveal that the answer is no. The notes on the pitch pipe are A4 and G#4. Even a piano keyboard has octaves 1 to 7, with normal note going from A1 to C8. If you sang a rising scale (or played a violin) starting at C8 your voice or violin wouldn't suddenly jump to an A1! In other words, the notes are conceptually adjacent but not actually adjacent. https://www.palenmusic.com/products/pitch-pipe-f-to-f

In music there is a circle of fifths which can be really handy for understanding key signatures and Brahms A German Requiem. But again, the looping circle is illusory. The circle of fifths might make it seem that Gb and F# the same keys. (They are not.) And while well-tempered instruments (say a piano) make no distinction between an Gb and an F#, musicians on unfretted instruments (who are skilled with just intonation) can (and do) make a distinction between Gb and F#.

Circle of Fifths, Wikipedia

Sorry to be pedantic, but these spectra don't loop. They go shorter than the shortest you can perceive and longer than the longest you can perceive, and there are still shorter and longer frequencies that cannot be perceived.

All that to say:

Does the word “spectrum” (as in a progressing array of values) necessarily imply separate extremes?

Yes, the extremes of spectra are separate.

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  • While it is true that 'there is no loop' in the physical phenomena that trigger our perceptions of colour, the experiences of colour do form a loop, which is represented by the colour wheel. It is thus misleading to say that, 'while red and violet can be adjacent in some of these color wheels, there is no loop in real life'. In real life, real people really experience red and violet as close to each other, even though the frequencies of the electromagnetic waves that cause these experiences are not close. Human psychology is a part of reality.
    – jsw29
    Commented Feb 14, 2021 at 17:21
  • I agree that "Human psychology is a part of reality." But the word spectrum is a scientific classification and does not refer to this psychological "reality." Red and violet are separate extremes on the spectrum. Although they appear adjacent on some color wheels, their adjacency is as illusory as Müller-Lyer (optical) illusion.
    – rajah9
    Commented Feb 15, 2021 at 14:41
  • Also consider the Purkinje effect in which red vs. blue are perceived differently at full sunlight vs. dusk. The wavelengths of red vs. blue are constant, but the human perception of luminescence changes at dusk. Human perception is labile and subjective; the spectrum is objective.
    – rajah9
    Commented Feb 15, 2021 at 14:45
  • Finally, consider The Dress brouhaha (livescience.com/50842-dress-debate-color-perception.html). While some perceived the dress as white and others as blue, the dress color had a defined set of wavelengths, regardless of human perception. Those wavelengths were at a particular set of values in the electromagnetic spectrum known as visible light. It would be absurd to think that the dress shifted from blue to white, depending on the observer. Again, Human perception is labile and subjective; the spectrum is objective.
    – rajah9
    Commented Feb 15, 2021 at 14:54

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