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I'd like to understand the derivation of the phrase "oldest X in the book." Was this referring to a particular book, or was it an idiom that developed without a particular object in mind?

If it is just an idiom, how old is the idiom, and how did it develop?

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    I think it's similar to the expression "You know what they say..." – there is no "they" in particular. Perhaps "they" wrote the book.
    – J.R.
    Commented Nov 22, 2013 at 19:05
  • If you find an answer useful, you can 'accept' it; else you can post a comment indicating what you exactly expect to know.
    – Kris
    Commented Feb 15, 2014 at 6:06
  • Compare the question What is the oldest trick in the book? The version with "trick" seems the oldest non-literal version of "oldest X in the book", and was common in the 1940s.
    – Stuart F
    Commented Oct 6, 2023 at 10:58

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Good question. It is an idiom: "They committed every crime in the book"; "He was always one step ahead of me, as he seems to know every trick in the book."; "He used every trick in the book to get her to sign the contract."

See every trick in the book on Wiktionary.

'The book' appears to be a metaphor for the body of knowledge. Compare: by the book, 'according to the correct or established form' (originally could have referred to the Bible).

'to play by the book' (strictly according to the rules of the game):
Edgar Allan Poe, Murders in Rue Morgue, 1845:

"To have a retentive memory, and to proceed by 'the book', are points commonly regarded as the sum total of good playing."

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There's no literal "The Book", but rather a metaphorical "the book you got it from". Joke books are indeed a thing that exists. Here's one I used to own as a kid.

Jokes generally have prestige based on how original they are. If a person has heard a joke several times before, they aren't going to find it nearly as funny.

If you made it up yourself, that's clearly original. Someone who isn't that clever would be forced to get their jokes from a jokebook like perhaps the one I linked above.

So basically this is a way of denigrating the humor of someone who just told a joke. You are implying they are so unfunny that, not only did they have to get their humor "canned" from a book, but they don't even know enough to avoid jokes their audience is likely to have heard before.

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  • The question, I'm afraid is not about 'jokes' at all. A re-read might help.
    – Kris
    Commented Nov 23, 2013 at 13:07

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