Timeline for Usage question: "I hadn't drank any coffee before I lived in Italy."
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Oct 24, 2012 at 10:56 | history | edited | RegDwigнt |
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Jun 23, 2012 at 10:51 | history | edited | Adam | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Jun 23, 2012 at 10:21 | comment | added | Adam | @RegDwightΒВB Thank you, Reg. I am still new here so I appreciate all the help I can get in improving my questions to make them more accurate and useful. | |
Jun 23, 2012 at 10:19 | history | edited | Adam | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Jun 23, 2012 at 8:09 | answer | added | Maria Valentina Uva | timeline score: 2 | |
Jun 23, 2012 at 0:47 | comment | added | RegDwigнt | @Adam: the idea is that you first improve the question by editing it. Comments are meant to help you in doing so. Crucial bits such as "I have seen question X and question Y, but the answers there don't cut it for reasons A, B, and C" belong in the question body rather than buried in comments. Most people don't read lengthy comment exchanges, so you run the risk of getting the exact same answers those other questions produced. Not to mention that your very premise ("any other verb but drink") has now been shown to be wrong. Stuff like that really needs editing. Thank you. | |
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Jun 21, 2012 at 18:30 | comment | added | Peter Shor | I remember hearing somewhere—I don't know where, and I have no idea how reliable this is—that "have drank" was used instead of "have drunk" to avoid using the word drunk, because drunk also means intoxicated. I was trying to track down this piece of information to put in an answer when it was closed. Unfortunately, I couldn't easily find it on the web, and I suspect this explanation is apocryphal. | |
Jun 21, 2012 at 18:24 | comment | added | Adam | @PeterShor, Thank you, Peter. I found that the 'duplicate' answers were really no help at all. It's unfortunate that this question was closed prematurely. | |
Jun 9, 2012 at 0:06 | comment | added | Peter Shor | Maybe this shouldn't have been closed. One hundred fifty years ago, have drank was a perfectly respectable alternative to have drunk. But have went has never been widely used. | |
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Jun 8, 2012 at 8:56 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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Jun 8, 2012 at 7:34 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/#!/StackEnglish/status/210998180643483648 | ||
Jun 8, 2012 at 1:18 | comment | added | Peter Shor | Not only is a dialectical variant, it appears a very well-established dialectical variant with a long history. Consider this Google Ngram. (I included rang/rung as a comparison to show it doesn't happen with other verbs.) | |
Jun 8, 2012 at 0:50 | comment | added | tchrist♦ | Definitely substandard — at best. Generally considered “wrong”. Just because the unlettered have an aversion to having swum somewhere doesn’t mean that it isn’t the standard form. On the other hand, you will notice that Shakespeare used plenty of “have+simple past” constructs where today we would likely accept only “have+past participle” in those slots. Like “had broke” and such. | |
Jun 7, 2012 at 22:27 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | Lots of speakers are hazy about drank/drunk, rang/rung, sang/sung, etc., so it's not really a good choice of verb for the general principle. Very few people would say "I hadn't knew much about ice-cream until I lived in Italy", which is the same tense error. | |
Jun 7, 2012 at 20:48 | comment | added | Adam | Southwest, actually. Currently living in the Czech Republic with British and Californian colleagues. As I said, it seems to be across all CoP's. | |
Jun 7, 2012 at 20:34 | comment | added | Kosmonaut | Are you located in the US Northeast? This is a dialectal variant, which I know occurs in places like New Jersey and Long Island in particular (but probably not only there). After things like "hadn't", "coulda/woulda/shoulda", etc., the simple past form is used instead of the past participle. But this would not be exclusively for "drink" but for all verbs. | |
Jun 7, 2012 at 20:23 | history | asked | Adam | CC BY-SA 3.0 |