Timeline for Are there any special English words describing indexed items which are displayed first word last?
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Apr 22, 2012 at 20:29 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | @J.R.: I fully accept my point was never really pertinent to the O.P.'s question. In retrospect I should probably have taken a leaf out of J.R's book and added it as a comment. Certainly his comment is more relevant to his answer than mine was, and it doesn't seem particularly odd to me that the first comment under an answer should be from the answerer himself. It's a device I shall try to remember and make use of myself in future. | |
Apr 22, 2012 at 19:18 | comment | added | J.R. | @FumbleFingers: Whether or not the titles are oft-confused was never pertinent to the O.P.'s question or initial conversation – that's all I've been saying. After you typed, "it wasn't actually The Golden Goose;" I simply tried to gently clarify, "It's both." | |
Apr 22, 2012 at 17:10 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | @J.R.: I didn't mean to imply The Golden Goose isn't a valid example of a title. But Google Books says of the 56K entries for those three words, over 17K of them are preceded by kill or killed. The Grimm goose never dies so I take that as evidence that at least one in three published writers confuse it with Aesop's goose. For Google Internet the error rate is higher, at 310K kill/killed out of 729K, and I'd expect spoken usage to be even worse. The fact that it may be used correctly doesn't invalidate my point that it's very often used mistakenly. | |
Apr 21, 2012 at 18:12 | comment | added | J.R. | @FF: If I insist? Yes, I insist that The Golden Goose is a valid example of a title. (So are The Gold Bug, The Golden Compass, The Snow Goose, and The Goose Is Loose.) The O.P. said, "an entry for the The Golden Goose would be listed as Golden Goose, The." That's true; that's how it would be listed, no matter what other stories might be more common. (Some modern references to The Golden Goose may be "mistakes," as you claim, but, given the context, it's hard to see how this instance could be tagged as erroneous). | |
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Apr 21, 2012 at 11:31 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | @J.R.: If you insist. Fact remains that even today, golden eggs/eggs outweighs goose by almost 2:1, and I still think some/many/most of the modern references to golden goose are mistakes. Look at the recent rise in killed the golden goose (it doesn't die in the Grimm tale, obviously). | |
Apr 21, 2012 at 8:33 | comment | added | J.R. | @FumbleFingers: Huh? What does that have to do with anything? Either one is a valid example for a title, contrary to your answer's final assertion. It matters not how many Eggs, Golden are laid by the story's title character. :^) Moreover, according to your own Ngram, the Goose, Golden is making a resurgence of sorts. | |
Apr 21, 2012 at 6:18 | comment | added | Kris | " ... determining key-words ..." is not aphabetization. The latter, in simpler terms, is what we know as sorting. | |
Apr 21, 2012 at 3:09 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | @J.R. Yeah, but if you add together all the Golden Eggs and Golden Egg laid, they're far more common than the Golden Goose - and I bet at least some of the people talking about a golden goose think it lays golden eggs (which of course, it doesn't - its value being in its golden feathers). | |
Apr 21, 2012 at 0:15 | comment | added | J.R. | It's both. Aesop wrote The Goose That Laid The Golden Egg, but The Golden Goose is found in the Bros. Grimm collection. | |
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Apr 20, 2012 at 23:55 | history | answered | FumbleFingers | CC BY-SA 3.0 |