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Nov 26 at 14:48 comment added Peter - Reinstate Monica @Mari-LouA If the script is more decoupled from the spoken word, as it is in Chinese, I suppose one can make different classes of errors.
Nov 26 at 11:42 comment added Mari-Lou A @Peter- What has phonemic orthography got to do with grammar and syntax? An ungrammatical expression/sentence such as: "we are went to the job" would remain ungrammatical, and semantically incorrect even if the spelling was phonetic. By the way, the difference in meaning between Jack off and jack off would be clear in speech. I suspect the latter is said as if it were a single word whilst the name, Jack, would be slightly stressed.
Nov 26 at 11:28 comment added Peter - Reinstate Monica The distinction between "writing" and "the language itself" can be made, I think, only for languages with phonemic orthography, as opposed to scripts using morphemes like Chinese.
Nov 26 at 11:19 comment added Peter - Reinstate Monica @David258 Not using capitalization would not so much change the meaning as make it ambiguous, which incidentally reveals what use capitalization has: Reduce ambiguities and make reading easier.
Nov 25 at 21:52 comment added Janus Bahs Jacquet @David258 Those are not the same words in the same order. The proper name Jack is not the same word (lexeme) as the verb jack; the fact that they are spelt and pronounced the same is incidental to that.
Nov 25 at 14:55 comment added David258 "If it’s the same words in the same order, it has the same grammar" - This is not always strictly true, there is a grammatical difference between "Helping my Uncle Jack off a horse" and the lower case equivalent...
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