Timeline for What is the correct past-participle inflection of the verb ‘weightlifting’ – and why?
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Nov 3 at 22:00 | comment | added | JK2 | @FumbleFingers Whether to hyphenate or not should be based on the written usage of individual compound words, regardless of whether they're established or not. (Note it's get-go, not getgo.) And one authoritative guide to hyphenation usage is a dictionary, which of course is the outcome of corpus research, a graphic version of which is ngram. | |
Nov 3 at 13:13 | comment | added | tchrist♦ | @FumbleFingers Deliberately cherry picking is not the same thing as deliberate cherry picking. I'll let you decide which is which on your own, though. | |
Nov 3 at 13:03 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | Not that I want to get too bogged down in this, but are you not deliberately cherry picking your supporting arguments here? | |
Nov 3 at 13:01 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | @tchrist: You might know more than chatgpt in your "specialist subjects" today, but I think that situation is likely to change in a matter of months rather than years (and the changeover certainly isn't decades in the future! :) | |
Nov 3 at 12:37 | comment | added | tchrist♦ | @FumbleFingers Unfortunately, modifying the entire predicate is completely different from modifying a single word therein. See also "sentence adverbs". You cannot have "❌easily cherrypicking", only "easy cherrypicking". If you want an adverb you need a verb: "easily picking cherries". // PLEASE NEVER USE CHATGPT TO SUPPORT ANY ARGUMENT HERE. It is rife with hallucinations. It is not citable. It knows nothing. | |
Nov 3 at 12:04 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | @tchrist: Hmm. Chatgpt says In the sentence "We're going strawberry-picking tomorrow," the word "tomorrow" functions as an adverb. It modifies the verb phrase "going strawberry-picking" by indicating when the action will take place. Strawberries, cherries - it's all the same. Chatgpt also assures me strawberry-picking is a gerund noun there. | |
Nov 3 at 11:55 | comment | added | tchrist♦ | It's just an -ing noun, not a verb. Try modifying it and you'll see that it can take only adjectives not adverbs, so it cannot be a gerund. | |
Nov 3 at 11:14 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | At the risk of being accused of cherrypicking, consider this chart. I can't help noticing that my Firefox browser underlines the unhyphenated form in my comment (it doesn't like unhyphenated either! :) I think the Internet, computers, and predictive text are behind the meteoric rise of the hyphenated for in the last two decades, not some inexplicable desire on the part of writers to travel back in time! | |
Nov 3 at 9:36 | comment | added | JK2 | But hyphenation doesn't necessarily mean undergoing an intermediate hyphenated phase. For example, the verb cherry-pick is much more established than the verb weight-lift and appears in most dictionaries, but its hyphenated version is much more productive. books.google.com/ngrams/… Also, weightlifted has been more productive than weight-lifted from the get-go: books.google.com/ngrams/… | |
Nov 3 at 2:18 | history | answered | FumbleFingers | CC BY-SA 4.0 |