Timeline for What pronoun should I use, "by we who" or "by us who"? [duplicate]
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| May 15 at 4:14 | comment | added | Rosie F | The structure has a solution which is elegant and idiomatic: "by us". The "who" is correctly "who" because it is the subject of "hate". That is sufficient justification for "who"; no more is needed. In particular, the word "who" doesn't entail changing the "us" to "we". This answer shows an analogous construction. | |
| May 14 at 15:14 | comment | added | Edwin Ashworth | @Lambie The original might (admittedly clumsily) equate 'we/us' and the haters, whereas 'those of us who hate him' is partitive. Then only the rewrite I give last (of those offered so far) is accurate. | |
| May 14 at 14:32 | history | edited | Laurel♦ | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 14 at 14:17 | history | duplicates list edited | tchrist♦ | duplicates list edited from What case follows 'of' in this phrase - nominative or accusative? (the [ways] of HIM who is without end / the [ways] of HE who is without end), personal pronouns in object position but subjective case [duplicate] to What rules make “Remember me, who am your friend” grammatical?, Which is grammatically correct: "Let he who..." or "Let him who...", It is I who am at fault? [duplicate], What case follows 'of' in this phrase - nominative or accusative? (the [ways] of HIM who is without end / the [ways] of HE who is without end), personal pronouns in object position but subjective case [duplicate] | |
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Duplicate of What case follows 'of' in this phrase - nominative or accusative? (the [ways] of HIM who is without end / the [ways] of HE who is without end), personal pronouns in object position but subjective case [duplicate] | |
| May 14 at 14:13 | history | edited | tchrist♦ |
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| May 14 at 14:05 | comment | added | Edwin Ashworth | Both the objective (after the preposition) and the subjective (for we who hate him) are required. A solution (really an accepted fudge) is to use case-masking 'those' / 'the people' / 'all' / 'those of us'. But a complete rephrasing is arguably better: 'We hate him;/ and we will yell at him.' | |
| May 14 at 13:28 | comment | added | Yosef Baskin | The structure has no elegant solution. | |
| May 14 at 13:17 | history | edited | KillingTime | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| S May 14 at 13:15 | history | asked | James | CC BY-SA 4.0 |