Timeline for Does "what led Karen to her disappearance" mean the same as "what led to Karen's disappearance"?
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| Jun 2, 2023 at 11:38 | history | edited | Greybeard | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 2, 2023 at 9:50 | comment | added | Andrew Leach♦ | @WillhelmineTell Please don't write an answer into the question. Questions should be questions. You are free to write an answer to your own question (in the "Answer" box), and even accept your answer. Please edit your question to return it to a question, and add an answer which answers it. | |
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| Apr 29, 2023 at 10:46 | answer | added | Bennett Dunn | timeline score: 1 | |
| Apr 28, 2023 at 22:06 | comment | added | Barmar | The phrase "led Karen to XXX" is ambiguous on its own. It can be circumstances that caused XXX, or it can be reasons why she did XXX. But it should be clear after reading the rest of the text. | |
| Apr 28, 2023 at 18:28 | comment | added | Willhelmine Tell | I can say where the original comes from, but unless you are a loser like me, you won't bother. ;) My issue is that I would really like to understand and learn. :( Source is the post Nr. 7 in steamcommunity.com/app/554620/discussions/0/3827538247206219483 and there is already someone who has the same issue as me. | |
| Apr 28, 2023 at 18:26 | comment | added | Edwin Ashworth | The Ross constraint violation is ungrammatical, so the passage cannot be seen as faultless English. | |
| Apr 28, 2023 at 18:24 | comment | added | Willhelmine Tell | Exactly this "can mean" is the point as this is how do I understand it, and this is what gives when translated into my mother tongue, be it by the translation service DeepL, or by the "brain-auto-traslate" (I can speak English well, but I do not think on English!). My confusion arises because the text author claims that "what led Karen to her disappearance"and "what led to Karen's disappearance" have exactly same meaning and I can't see how both of those can be same. German speaking victim of tricky english here :( | |
| Apr 28, 2023 at 18:19 | comment | added | Edwin Ashworth | We really need to know where the text in question comes from ... from a respected writer / critic? The Ross constraint violation ('they go to the park and see, at the time, a mystery couple that we later learn who they are') argues against this, Willhelmine. The entire plot of After The Storm revolves around what led Karen to her disappearance' sounds unnatural to my ears. Lambie's suggestion is probably correct. But perhaps confusingly, "what led Karen to her death" sounds quite acceptable. | |
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| Apr 28, 2023 at 18:08 | comment | added | Lambie | The entire plot of After The Storm revolves around what led Karen to her disappearance. can mean there is another woman involved. That is what it actually says. But they probably meant to say: The entire plot of After The Storm revolves around what led to Karen's disappearance. | |
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| Apr 28, 2023 at 17:49 | history | reopened | tchrist♦ | ||
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KillingTime Heartspring jimm101 |
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| Apr 28, 2023 at 16:46 | history | edited | Willhelmine Tell | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Apr 28, 2023 at 16:43 | comment | added | Willhelmine Tell | I simply don't know how I should interpret led Karen to her part of the first sentence inside the full context ot the writing. :( | |
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| Apr 28, 2023 at 16:29 | comment | added | Willhelmine Tell | The issue is that I'm the confused reader and not the writer. This means that I can't rewrite or reformulate something that I didn't understand in the first place. ;) You see the very first sentence in the quoted text (issue), and you see the quoted text (context). Does the first sentence, particularly the part "led Karen to her" make sense to you? What would you conclude upon reading it? Did Karen disappear because she wanted to disappear (go away on her own), or because of some circumstances other (she got murdered)? Or both are possible? | |
| Apr 28, 2023 at 16:29 | comment | added | Willhelmine Tell | I would if I could, but the issue is that I do not understand the exact meaning of "what led Karen to her disappearance" within the given context. If I remove the context, there's no point in asking the question. :( | |
| Apr 28, 2023 at 16:09 | history | closed |
Gio KillingTime Heartspring |
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| Apr 28, 2023 at 15:13 | history | edited | Yosef Baskin | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Apr 28, 2023 at 15:03 | comment | added | Stuart F | This question really isn't clear to me. Try and reduce it to a single, specific question. Perhaps if you consider "who led the horse to water" and variants of that. Looking up lead in a dictionary may also help - the verb has several related but different meanings, including guide, direct, serve as a channel for, have charge of, go at the head of, or bring to a conclusion. If you're worried about issues of agency or who is in control, that may help. | |
| Apr 28, 2023 at 14:37 | comment | added | user405662 | Gee! Welcome to ELU, Willhelmine. Could you please condense this extremely long post into a nice, readable one? :) | |
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| S Apr 28, 2023 at 14:25 | history | asked | Willhelmine Tell | CC BY-SA 4.0 |