Timeline for Did King Charles III use the pronoun "myself" correctly?
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| Mar 25 at 12:47 | comment | added | Edwin Ashworth | The CoGEL treatment is superb. For completeness, here is 6.27a (not relevant to OP's question): (a) In some spatial prepositional phrases << Holding her new yellow bathrobe around her(self) with both arms, she walked up to him. >> [+ 3 more examples] I'd comment (1) I haven't thought of examples offering this choice with non-spatial PPs / (2) Using 'myself' rather than 'me' sounds far more formal than using 'himself' for 'him' and may affect preference / (3) 'Padding' may affect preference (They pulled the spring lock shut behind them/selves // Their past behind them, they felt free). | |
| Dec 27, 2022 at 20:19 | comment | added | LPH | @KateBunting I have no opinion as to the naturalness of this usage, personnally (not enough experience), but those grammarians say that it is not limited to "object territory"; the countless cases found in the books confirm what they say; the link to the ngram does not work, but just try the research "my * and myself". | |
| Dec 27, 2022 at 19:31 | comment | added | Kate Bunting | @pacoverflow - Yes, my sister and myself is wrong there because myself replaces I. In the King's speech it replaces me. | |
| Dec 27, 2022 at 0:09 | comment | added | wizzwizz4 | @pacoverflow That's a rule of thumb to get the declensions right, rather than the rule. (English doesn't tend to have many the rules.) This construction is present in many varieties of English, including my own, and thus is as correct as can be. | |
| Dec 26, 2022 at 22:18 | comment | added | pdbartlett | Maybe here the duplicated form would sound better, i.e. "I myself went sailing yesterday"? | |
| Dec 26, 2022 at 18:16 | comment | added | pacoverflow | Seems like "My sister and myself went sailing yesterday" should be wrong, given that "Myself went sailing yesterday" would definitely be wrong. | |
| Dec 26, 2022 at 12:38 | comment | added | LPH | @Xanne On the contrary and surprisingly, the adjective is really "hyperurban" (exhibiting hyperurbanism). | |
| Dec 26, 2022 at 10:22 | comment | added | Xanne | Presumably with the “urbane” meaning rather than just urban. CGEL is a bit hyperurbane itself. | |
| Dec 26, 2022 at 7:17 | history | edited | LPH | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Dec 26, 2022 at 6:21 | comment | added | LPH | @Xanne (SOED) a manner of speech arising from an effort to avoid provincialism; a hypercorrect form of speech or phrase resulting from this effort (early 20th century). | |
| Dec 26, 2022 at 5:37 | comment | added | Xanne | A hyperurbanism! I love that. | |
| Dec 25, 2022 at 23:28 | history | edited | LPH | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Dec 25, 2022 at 22:34 | history | answered | LPH | CC BY-SA 4.0 |