Timeline for Should "each" always be paired with a singular verb, even when a 'singular noun' and [each + partitive] are paired?
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| Apr 28, 2022 at 12:00 | comment | added | Greybeard | @MarcInManhattan I was just about to suggest that you ask a question about "Both + NP and NP". | |
| Apr 28, 2022 at 5:25 | comment | added | MarcInManhattan | Your answer says that "both" functions as subject, and now you say that the coordinated phrase is the subject, too. And then you suggest that either could be subject. I'll admit that I'm somewhat confused, but I'm prepared to let this issue rest at this point. Thank you for responding to my questions. | |
| Apr 27, 2022 at 22:10 | comment | added | Greybeard | "Both Tinkerbella and each member of the McGorkle family" is a noun phrase and the subject. But "Both" or "Tinkerbella and each member of the McGorkle family" could take the role of subject. If it were "Both" then a referent would be needed. | |
| Apr 27, 2022 at 17:35 | comment | added | MarcInManhattan | OK, so I think you're saying that "both" is a pronoun. But I still don't know the function of "Tinkerbella and each member of the McGorkle family". You've called it a referent, but referent isn't usually considered a function, as I mentioned above (with the "John" example). | |
| Apr 27, 2022 at 9:43 | comment | added | Greybeard | @MarcInManhattan I qualified with "However, I do not think it is necessary to go to this length. Both requires a referent and "pronoun" seems favourite." | |
| Apr 27, 2022 at 6:24 | comment | added | MarcInManhattan | I ask because your answer doesn't make sense to me. You say in point #1 that "both" is a subject, but now you say that it is "a determiner (or "predeterminer") . . . or a simple adjective". However, those normally don't function as subjects (with a few exceptions--such as adnouns--none of which would apply here). | |
| Apr 27, 2022 at 0:07 | comment | added | Greybeard | In constructions where both precedes coordinated elements which are nouns or noun phrases (e.g. ‘both her mother and her father came to visit’), both could be regarded as a determiner (or "predeterminer") modifying the two noun phrases (or a simple adjective). However, I do not think it is necessary to go to this length. Both requires a referent and "pronoun" seems favourite. | |
| Apr 26, 2022 at 23:46 | comment | added | MarcInManhattan | "Because he was hungry, John ate dinner." <-- "John" is the cataphoric referent of "he", but that is not its function; it is a subject. So I'm wondering about the function you assign to that phrase. | |
| Apr 26, 2022 at 23:41 | comment | added | Greybeard | @MarcInManhattan ""Tinkerbella and each member of the McGorkle family" is the cataphoric referent of "both". | |
| Apr 26, 2022 at 17:23 | comment | added | MarcInManhattan | I wonder what function you assign to "Tinkerbella and each member of the McGorkle family". Is it an appositive, in apposition to "both"? Or something else? | |
| Apr 26, 2022 at 14:20 | vote | accept | B. Clay Shannon-B. Crow Raven | ||
| Apr 25, 2022 at 11:49 | history | answered | Greybeard | CC BY-SA 4.0 |