Timeline for Shall & Should & the “Mandative Subjunctive”
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| Dec 17, 2023 at 18:38 | comment | added | tchrist♦ | Related. | |
| Jul 20, 2021 at 13:28 | comment | added | DjinTonic | I took the OP's "...but I had to wonder about the changes in what we call the “mandative subjunctive” in the intervening time." as an indirect but separate question. | |
| Jul 20, 2021 at 13:27 | comment | added | Edwin Ashworth | Aren't Mary Jo Stanley and Bernard L. Jr. Satterwhite [sic] American authors? // (1) 'Marjorie had insisted that Barbara spent the morning resting in her stateroom. ' would need appropriate prior context (eg 'The inspector had come close to actually accusing Barbara of the murder.') not to default to the deontic sense. //// Periphrastic should is the normal usage in the UK in formal, and certainly in otherwise ambiguous, situations. It's more powerful at disambiguating than the mandative subjunctive. | |
| Jul 20, 2021 at 13:22 | comment | added | tchrist♦ | Although related and insightful, this does not appear to answer the question asked, which was: “But had I written shall or should, would the meaning of the sentence have changed? Moreover, is there any meaningful difference between shall and should in this case? Maybe only among hyper-fastidious speakers?” It moreover ends in a question asking whether using the indicative in places where Americans use the subjunctive is considered informal in British English. If you have a new question, please use the Ask Question button. | |
| Jul 20, 2021 at 12:51 | history | edited | DjinTonic | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jul 20, 2021 at 11:59 | history | answered | DjinTonic | CC BY-SA 4.0 |