Timeline for What is the relational antonym for the word mentioner?
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| Jul 14, 2021 at 7:29 | comment | added | shinzou | @tchrist it's just not in any dictionary I was looking into, but I learned from your answer that English is like Hebrew and it's possible to create words that aren't explicitly in the dictionary :) | |
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| Jul 12, 2021 at 19:05 | vote | accept | shinzou | ||
| Jul 12, 2021 at 18:03 | answer | added | tchrist♦ | timeline score: 2 | |
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| Jul 12, 2021 at 17:46 | history | edited | tchrist♦ |
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| Jul 12, 2021 at 17:46 | comment | added | tchrist♦ | @shinzou What evidence do you have that mentionee is “not a word”? I can't see any grammatical or semantic restriction that would forbid its productive creation here using standard derivational morphology. That's because deriving -er/-ee noun-pairs from transitive verbs is one of English's more productive suffix pairings. | |
| Jul 12, 2021 at 17:37 | comment | added | tchrist♦ | @Mitch I'm afraid that's not right. Mention is monotransitive only, never ditransitive: there are no double-object constructions for it. In your example Y is the object of the preposition to, which is an adjunct not an oblique argument let alone a core argument. To be the indirect object it would have to be a different syntactic construct such as "X told Y Z" but it's not grammatical to mention him something in English. You seem to be confusing syntactic/grammatical roles like subject, direct object, and indirect object with thematic relations like agent, patient, and recipient. | |
| Jul 12, 2021 at 17:33 | comment | added | shinzou | @Mitch I added sentences to the question. The real world scenario is a programming problem, I have a group of objects that are the mentioners and a group of objects that are mentionees and I have to explicitly name them with their part of the relationship. | |
| Jul 12, 2021 at 17:31 | comment | added | shinzou | @StuartF what is the plural of mentioned? Also it's like employer and employed, it's not the same... | |
| Jul 12, 2021 at 17:15 | comment | added | Stuart F | Mentioner and mentioned? | |
| Jul 12, 2021 at 16:48 | comment | added | Mitch | The syntax of 'mention' is 'X mentioned Z to Y'. In this relation X is the subject, Z is the object, and Y is the indirect object. So by this syntax the object is the other side of the relation. If you passivize such a sentence the subject becomes Z, the thing mentioned. If you came up with a scenario and sentence, it'll make it much easier for potential answerers to attempt an answer. | |
| Jul 12, 2021 at 16:42 | comment | added | shinzou | No I want to keep the mention verb so it will be self descriptive. @Mitch | |
| Jul 12, 2021 at 16:41 | history | edited | shinzou | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jul 12, 2021 at 16:38 | comment | added | Mitch | Edit your question to give a full sentence with a real world situation. Do you want to be able to use the word in a sentence that does -not- also use the verb 'mention'. Note that though 'mentioner' is legally a word by English word formation rules, it is not a common thing to use - you just say 'X mentioned to Y' without specifying roles. | |
| Jul 12, 2021 at 16:37 | comment | added | shinzou | The mentioner mentions the mentionee @Mitch | |
| Jul 12, 2021 at 16:36 | comment | added | Mitch | Can you give a situation and sentence where. this word might occur? | |
| Jul 12, 2021 at 16:33 | history | asked | shinzou | CC BY-SA 4.0 |