Timeline for How do you tell a spelling mistake from a grammar mistake? [duplicate]
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Duplicate of Spelling or grammar error? [closed] | |
| Apr 30, 2021 at 20:35 | answer | added | Géry Ogam | timeline score: 0 | |
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| Apr 23, 2021 at 18:42 | answer | added | tchrist♦ | timeline score: 1 | |
| Apr 23, 2021 at 16:13 | comment | added | Mitch | @Maggyero But in 'how do you tell', is it a person doing the telling or is it a machine? Actually, what is it you want done with the info - to learn from the mistake or to just correct it? Well, anyway, a simple automated spell checker is to check single words against a dictionary, and a grammar checker is more complicated. But for a person, to correct (or grade a paper) maybe you count spelling mistakes much less (like typos) than grammar? Whatever, just tell them how to fix it, if it's not spelling then an ambiguous error just call it grammar. | |
| Apr 23, 2021 at 16:08 | comment | added | jsw29 | @Maggyero, a competent proofreader already knows how to proofread. It is not essential to the proofreading process that the mistakes be classified; what is important is that they be corrected. | |
| Apr 23, 2021 at 15:54 | comment | added | Géry Ogam | @Mitch The purpose is to proofread documents for spelling and grammar mistakes. The causes of the mistakes (typing error, lack of knowledge, lack of concern, etc.) are of course unknown. Now my understanding is that a grammar only describes the structure of a language, while orthography (which includes spelling, hyphenation, capitalization, word breaks, emphasis, and punctuation) only describes the writing of a language. Here we are dealing with an oral language (English), so reading the text aloud seems more natural to determine its grammaticality (the speech method) than using a dictionary. | |
| Apr 23, 2021 at 13:08 | comment | added | Mitch | @Maggyero What is the point of such a rule? Is it to answer questions on a test? Is it to improve an automated checker in an editor? Or is it proof reading a non-native speakers text to tell them how ti fix it? (the last two are similar). 'Your the best' could be spelling, could be grammar, but also could be a typo or spellcheck suggestion error. Your dictionary rule works as a first pass for -positive- spelling errors. You could then just say any ambiguous one like 'I likes music' is grammatical (even if it was a slip on the keyboard). | |
| Apr 23, 2021 at 8:46 | comment | added | Géry Ogam | @Jim Which method gives the right answer according to you? | |
| Apr 23, 2021 at 8:40 | comment | added | Jim | @Maggyero - Hmm. Obviously you should use the method that gives the right answer. :-) Remember that just because a word is in the dictionary doesn’t mean it’s the write word four the sen tents. | |
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| Apr 23, 2021 at 8:01 | comment | added | Géry Ogam | @Jim That is not what John said (cf. my previous comment), that is one of the two methods that I gave in my post. And that does not answer my question which is about which method I should use. | |
| Apr 23, 2021 at 7:53 | comment | added | Géry Ogam | @JohnLawler ‘If it's not written it can't be a spelling misteak.’ I think you misunderstood my post since all the examples I gave are written. To tell if they have a spelling or grammar mistake, one method is then to read them aloud. Another method is to look up the words in a dictionary. But these two methods give different results and my question is about which method I should use. | |
| Apr 23, 2021 at 7:42 | comment | added | Géry Ogam | @BenjaminHarman You are talking about ‘written grammar’, so you reject the idea that grammar is only about spoken language? | |
| Apr 23, 2021 at 2:31 | comment | added | Jim | To further what John says, “If you can read an erroneous outloud and it sounds correct, then there can only be spelling or punctuation errors. If it sounds wrong when spoken then there could be grammar errors as well. | |
| Apr 22, 2021 at 23:32 | comment | added | John Lawler | If it's not written it can't be a spelling misteak. | |
| Apr 22, 2021 at 22:21 | comment | added | Benjamin Harman | You're assuming a spelling mistake isn't a type of grammar mistake. I'm not convinced that a spelling mistake isn't a type of grammar mistake, as far as written grammar is concerned. It's something I think you would have to include in your research to back up your question's currently unfounded assumption that spelling mistakes and grammar mistakes are mutually exclusive. | |
| Apr 22, 2021 at 22:08 | history | edited | Géry Ogam | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Apr 22, 2021 at 21:00 | comment | added | jsw29 | @EdwinAshworth, yes, the question indeed turns out to be a duplicate, and I would be happy to support its being closed as such (or merged), if the other question were reopened. | |
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| Apr 22, 2021 at 18:20 | comment | added | Edwin Ashworth | Does this answer your question? Spelling or grammar error? | |
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| Apr 22, 2021 at 16:28 | answer | added | jsw29 | timeline score: 3 | |
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| Apr 22, 2021 at 16:17 | answer | added | Lawrence | timeline score: 3 | |
| Apr 22, 2021 at 16:14 | comment | added | Lambie | @reed No one of the examples are programming, are they? | |
| Apr 22, 2021 at 16:13 | comment | added | reed | If I punch my keyboard like this fwljgfnzlkjuy, is that a spelling mistake or a grammar mistake? There's probably no way to know, unless you clearly define the boundaries between syntax and spelling. In programming languages for example there are no spelling mistakes, they are all syntax errors. | |
| Apr 22, 2021 at 16:11 | comment | added | Lambie | You just have to know it. Sounds are not a good way to go. There are many words you may not know.....[You mean: if the sentence doesn't sound correct...] | |
| Apr 22, 2021 at 15:53 | history | asked | Géry Ogam | CC BY-SA 4.0 |