Timeline for Determiners in a noun phrase
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| Nov 21, 2020 at 14:40 | comment | added | Edwin Ashworth | There are a lot of examples for 'all these many' (often with 'years'). Joshua 21:26 [New International Version] reads 'All these ten towns and their pasturelands were given to the rest of the Kohathite clans.' // Answers should carry supporting references. | |
| Nov 21, 2020 at 13:25 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | I just meant that one particular context where all + [determiner] + [number] [pluralnoun] is perfectly natural is when [determiner] things are being contrasted with [other determiner] instances of the same [pluralnoun]. But the example could just as well be All these five are good, but all those five are rubbish. It's neither here nor there to me whether to include of in either or both or the referents. | |
| Nov 21, 2020 at 13:24 | comment | added | chasly - supports Monica | P.S. I might say "All of these five answers are wrong, but both of those two answers are correct". I personally would not omit the "of" | |
| Nov 21, 2020 at 13:19 | comment | added | chasly - supports Monica | English is a flexible language and there are many things that we can say. However I'm not convinced by your assertion. The phrase "but those two answers are correct" is perfectly good, however it does not contain the word "all". Sometimes those of us who regularly answer these questions can become used to "international" English as perpetrated by European countries. English speakers are good at assimilation so, when we see a novel construction, we have a tendency to accept it. This is often seen on translation forums. For example we often see Spanglish on English-Spanish sites. | |
| Nov 21, 2020 at 13:13 | history | edited | chasly - supports Monica | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 21, 2020 at 13:12 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | It depends entirely on context. I can easily think of contexts where All these five answers are wrong [but both those two answers are correct] is perfectly idiomatic (with or without stress on these). Not so easy with all the five people, but it's not inherently a "non-idiomatic" construction. | |
| Nov 21, 2020 at 13:09 | history | answered | chasly - supports Monica | CC BY-SA 4.0 |