Timeline for Comma after introductory words, phrases, clauses: unacceptable, obligatory or optional?
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| Jun 22, 2018 at 0:40 | comment | added | avpaderno | The simpler solution doesn't show what happens when a comma is missing. The book doesn't want to give simple sentences, either for being funny, or showing how important is using the proper punctuation. | |
| Jun 22, 2018 at 0:34 | comment | added | avpaderno | Given the book's authors use the Oxford comma and given the position of and, the object of retiring can just be my wife, or the sentence would start with after retiring my wife and my parents or after retiring my wife, my parents, and my kids. In the latter case, the sentence would not continue with and I plan. | |
| Jun 21, 2018 at 22:00 | comment | added | Rusty Core | But a simpler solution would be to say "After retiring I together with my wife, my parents and the kids plan to travel..." ;-) | |
| Jun 21, 2018 at 21:59 | comment | added | Rusty Core | "After retiring my wife, my parents, the kids, and I plan to travel around the country would be equivalent to after I retire my wife, I plan to travel around the country with my parents and the kids." - No, not to me. If reading it your way why stopping with the wife? I would get "after I retire my wife, my parents and the kids" then "and I plan to travel around the country with my parents and the kids". I cannot start with "and I", so the whole sentence makes no sense. If I read it as "after I retire my wife, my parents, the kids, and I" then "plan to travel" still make no sense. | |
| Jun 20, 2018 at 22:09 | comment | added | avpaderno | Also, retire without object has a meaning, which is different from retire with object. (I will retire in 2030. The general retired all his troops.) | |
| Jun 20, 2018 at 21:59 | comment | added | avpaderno | After retiring my wife, my parents, the kids, and I plan to travel around the country would be equivalent to after I retire my wife, I plan to travel around the country with my parents and the kids. That is different from after retiring, my wife, my parents, the kids, and I plan to travel around the country, which would be equivalent to after I retire, I plan to travel around the country with my wife, my parents, and the kids. | |
| Jun 20, 2018 at 21:43 | comment | added | Rusty Core | "After retiring my wife, my parents, the kids, and I plan to travel around the country." - um, so? My wife, my parents, the kids, and I plan to travel. I see no problems with that. Conversely, if you remove the comma after "wife" then it will become "after retiring my wife" what will happen? "My parents, the kids, and I plan to travel". Again, all clear. No comma needed after "retiring". | |
| Apr 28, 2012 at 14:03 | history | edited | avpaderno | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
added the link to amazon.com
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| Dec 18, 2011 at 18:33 | history | answered | avpaderno | CC BY-SA 3.0 |