Timeline for How to negate "talk some sense into (someone)"?
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| Mar 21, 2019 at 17:43 | vote | accept | Learning Equals Success | ||
| Jul 19, 2018 at 16:25 | comment | added | Roger Sinasohn | I would phrase it as I was unable to talk any sense into him. | |
| Jul 19, 2018 at 15:25 | answer | added | Eliot G York | timeline score: 3 | |
| Jul 19, 2018 at 15:09 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Jul 19, 2018 at 15:02 | history | edited | Learning Equals Success | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jul 19, 2018 at 14:58 | comment | added | Learning Equals Success | @JohnLawler Thank you for the full explanation. I wanted it to be in a story, as after an event occurred, I want to sum it up or describe it from another character perspective; i.e, You succeed in talking some sense into him, and (in another event) You failed to talk sense into him. | |
| Jul 19, 2018 at 14:55 | comment | added | John Lawler | Oh, and one of the little complexities of negation is that it governs Negative Polarity Items like any. If you produce a negative sentence with some in the scope of a negative, most of the time (and certainly in this case) the some should be changed to any; i.e, I didn't succeed in talking any sense into him. | |
| Jul 19, 2018 at 14:49 | comment | added | John Lawler | If you want to negate it you have to decide which event you're negating: (1) your talking to him, or (2) him accepting the "sense" you "talked into him" (note the Conduit Metaphor here). That's one of the reasons to use didn't succeed -- it makes the result the target of negation. But in general it's not the case that one can "negate" any idiom or sentence, because there are normally internal structures that complicate things. Negation is an extremely complex subject. | |
| Jul 19, 2018 at 14:45 | answer | added | mike65535 | timeline score: 1 | |
| Jul 19, 2018 at 14:41 | answer | added | rajah9 | timeline score: 2 | |
| Jul 19, 2018 at 14:35 | review | First posts | |||
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| Jul 19, 2018 at 14:32 | history | asked | Learning Equals Success | CC BY-SA 4.0 |