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The purpose of citing a source is to convey to the reader that one found the information, for which the citation is given, in that source. By citing a source, a writer vouchesvouches that the source really contains the information in question. That means that one should always cite the source that one has actually consulted. For example, if the source is a book, one should have actually had the book in one’s hands: if one hasn't done so, one cannot vouch that it really contains that information. If the source is electronic, one has to have had it appear on the screen in front of oneself.

IfWhen one uses a source to get the information about something that appears in yet another source, and one hasn’t actually consulted the latter, one’s citation should make it clear both that one has found the information in the former, and that its ultimate sourcethis is the lattercase.

Thus For example, if one quotes Green’s words ason the basis of how they appear in Brown’s book, the citation should be something like

Green _______, as quoted by Brown _______,

or

Brown _______, quoting Green _______,

where the blanks are filled with the bibliographical information about the relevant sources, in whatever format one follows otherwise. One should not giveThe bibliographical data about Green's text may, in such a case, be based on Brown's citation to it.

This way of citing makes it clear that one cannot vouch that this is what Green actually wrote, because one hasn't seen Green's words as they appeared originally. The only (without mentioningthing that one vouches for by such a citation is that this is how Brown) presented Green's words, ifand this is the only thing that one hasn’t actually consulted Green’s text directlycan vouch for, given that it is only Brown's book that one has held in one's hands.

Why is thatit important to mention Brown's book in the citation, rather than simply cite to Green's text, if one hasn't actually seen the latter? Suppose

First, suppose that it turns out that Brown misquoted Green. If one has provided a proper citation, of the kind that is outlined above, it will be clear that the mistake is Brown’s, and that one is not responsible for Brown’s mistakeit. If

Second, if one were to cite Green without making it clear that one got his words through Brown’s bookmentioning Brown, one is liable towould be embarrassed bymisrepresenting the mistake (remember, by citing a source,research that one voucheshas done. One would be leading one's readers to think that one has taken the source really containstrouble to consult Green's text in its original form (that the informationcitation is to), which is not what one has actually done. Among serious scholars, such a misrepresentation would be frowned upon.

IncidentallyThus, givenin OP's example, the citation should make it clear both that the questionwords are Napoleon's, and that they are quoted on the basis of such-and-such course handout; the details will depend on whatever the prescribed citation style for the assignment is. Incidentally, when a student has been prompted bya question about an educational assignment, it would have beenis usually a much better ifstrategy to direct it to the OP had directedinstructor, than to some strangers on the Internet. The instructor can answer it in the way that is tailored to the teacher who gavespecifics of the assignment, while a site such as this one can only give an answer in terms of general principles. ItAny responsible instructor will know that is a part of a teacher’sthe job of teaching to explainanswer such matters to the studentsquestions.

The purpose of citing a source is to convey to the reader that one found the information, for which the citation is given, in that source. By citing a source, a writer vouches that the source really contains the information in question. That means that one should always cite the source that one has actually consulted. For example, if the source is a book, one should have actually had the book in one’s hands.

If one uses a source to get the information about something that appears in yet another source, and one hasn’t actually consulted the latter, one’s citation should make it clear both that one has found the information in the former, and that its ultimate source is the latter.

Thus, if one quotes Green’s words as they appear in Brown’s book, the citation should be something like

Green _______, as quoted by Brown _______,

or

Brown _______, quoting Green _______,

where the blanks are filled with the bibliographical information about the relevant sources, in whatever format one follows otherwise. One should not give a citation to Green only (without mentioning Brown), if one hasn’t actually consulted Green’s text directly.

Why is that important? Suppose that it turns out that Brown misquoted Green. If one has provided a proper citation, one is not responsible for Brown’s mistake. If one were to cite Green without making it clear that one got his words through Brown’s book, one is liable to be embarrassed by the mistake (remember, by citing a source, one vouches that the source really contains the information).

Incidentally, given that the question has been prompted by an educational assignment, it would have been much better if the OP had directed it to the teacher who gave the assignment. It is a part of a teacher’s job to explain such matters to the students.

The purpose of citing a source is to convey to the reader that one found the information, for which the citation is given, in that source. By citing a source, a writer vouches that the source really contains the information in question. That means that one should always cite the source that one has actually consulted. For example, if the source is a book, one should have actually had the book in one’s hands: if one hasn't done so, one cannot vouch that it really contains that information. If the source is electronic, one has to have had it appear on the screen in front of oneself.

When one uses a source to get the information about something that appears in yet another source, and one hasn’t actually consulted the latter, one’s citation should make it clear that this is the case. For example, if one quotes Green’s words on the basis of how they appear in Brown’s book, the citation should be something like

Green _______, as quoted by Brown _______,

or

Brown _______, quoting Green _______,

where the blanks are filled with the bibliographical information about the relevant sources, in whatever format one follows otherwise. The bibliographical data about Green's text may, in such a case, be based on Brown's citation to it.

This way of citing makes it clear that one cannot vouch that this is what Green actually wrote, because one hasn't seen Green's words as they appeared originally. The only thing that one vouches for by such a citation is that this is how Brown presented Green's words, and this is the only thing that one can vouch for, given that it is only Brown's book that one has held in one's hands.

Why is it important to mention Brown's book in the citation, rather than simply cite to Green's text, if one hasn't actually seen the latter?

First, suppose that it turns out that Brown misquoted Green. If one has provided a proper citation, of the kind that is outlined above, it will be clear that the mistake is Brown’s, and that one is not responsible for it.

Second, if one were to cite Green without mentioning Brown, one would be misrepresenting the research that one has done. One would be leading one's readers to think that one has taken the trouble to consult Green's text in its original form (that the citation is to), which is not what one has actually done. Among serious scholars, such a misrepresentation would be frowned upon.

Thus, in OP's example, the citation should make it clear both that the words are Napoleon's, and that they are quoted on the basis of such-and-such course handout; the details will depend on whatever the prescribed citation style for the assignment is. Incidentally, when a student has a question about an assignment, it is usually a much better strategy to direct it to the instructor, than to some strangers on the Internet. The instructor can answer it in the way that is tailored to the specifics of the assignment, while a site such as this one can only give an answer in terms of general principles. Any responsible instructor will know that is a part of the job of teaching to answer such questions.

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The purpose of citing a source is to convey to the reader that one found the information, for which the citation is given, in that source. By citing a source, a writer vouches that the source really contains the information in question. That means that one should always cite the source that one has actually consulted. For example, if the source is a book, one should have actually had the book in one’s hands.

If one uses a source to get the information about something that appears in yet another source, and one hasn’t actually consulted the latter, one’s citation should make it clear both that one has found the information in the former, and that its ultimate source is the latter.

Thus, if one quotes Green’s words as they appear in Brown’s book, the citation should be something like

Green _______, as quoted by Brown _______,

or

Brown _______, quoting Green _______,

where the blanks are filled with the bibliographical information about the relevant sources, in whatever format one follows otherwise. One should not give a citation to Green only (without mentioning Brown), if one hasn’t actually consulted Green’s text directly.

Why is that important? Suppose that it turns out that Brown misquoted Green. If one has provided a proper citation, one is not responsible for Brown’s mistake. If one were to cite Green without making it clear that one got his words through Brown’s book, one is liable to be embarrassed by the mistake (remember, by citing a source, one vouches that the source really contains the information).

Incidentally, given that the question has been prompted by an educational assignment, it would have been much better if the OP had directed it to the teacher who gave the assignment. It is a part of a teacher’s job to explain such matters to the students.