Timeline for Is nationalism specifically secular?
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| Jun 24, 2016 at 22:57 | answer | added | Au101 | timeline score: 3 | |
| Jun 24, 2016 at 21:37 | history | bumped | CommunityBot | This question has answers that may be good or bad; the system has marked it active so that they can be reviewed. | |
| May 31, 2016 at 16:09 | comment | added | Kit Z. Fox♦ | History.SE does not feel this question is on-topic for them. Politics.SE says it is on-topic there, but that you will probably get better answers here on EL&U. I'm ambivalent. Let me know if you want to migrate it to Politics. | |
| May 25, 2016 at 23:38 | comment | added | Mitch | @user6591 As interesting as they are, we don't really discuss social/religious/historical things here. They're just not on topic. The question you're asking can't be reduced to linguistic concerns. It is all about how to interpret the words on the basis of historical contexts. To get relevant answers, I suggest you have this migrated to another topic appropriate SE site (like history.SE). | |
| May 25, 2016 at 23:12 | comment | added | user6591 | @Lambie which connects them to their land and way of life. Don't agree? Ignore it. | |
| May 25, 2016 at 23:06 | comment | added | Lambie | That stuff about Japan has nothing to do with nationalism. That's about mythic origins of a people.... | |
| May 25, 2016 at 21:11 | answer | added | Elkvis | timeline score: -1 | |
| May 25, 2016 at 19:41 | comment | added | user6591 | @MetaEd I would agree but it seems I always only find this term used in describing decidedly not religiously motivated factors. History books will describe countries in Europe before world war one as engaging in nationalism, but not when describing religiously motivated actions. | |
| May 25, 2016 at 19:30 | comment | added | user6591 | @Lambie look up the Japanese mythological origins. Here's an excerpt from one wiki page: According to legend, Amaterasu bequeathed to her descendant Ninigi: the mirror, Yata no Kagami; the jewel,Yasakani no Magatama; and the sword,Kusanagi-no-Tsurugi. This sacred mirror, jewel, and sword collectively became the three Imperial Regalia of Japan. | |
| May 25, 2016 at 19:23 | comment | added | MetaEd | Nationalism is tribalism combined with a desire to have an autonomous government. Tribalism can be religous, or sanguine, or even philosophical. None of these are incompatible with nationalism. | |
| May 25, 2016 at 19:21 | comment | added | Lambie | Sorry, but I have never heard that the Japanese feel "connected to their homeland" via religion. Nationalism doesn't necessarily connote feeling superior. Don't forget: jingoism. or ultra-nationalism.Countries that oppose themselves to others based on religion would not be engaging in nationalism. And no country overtly does that anyway....nationalism is shown by people or groups of people, not by "countries". | |
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| May 25, 2016 at 19:08 | comment | added | user6591 | But take Israel or Saudi Arabia or Japan for that matter, all these peoples feel connected to their homelands from a religious point of view. It's not like a European country for instance. Those are specifically the types of situations I'm wondering about. | |
| May 25, 2016 at 19:05 | comment | added | John Lawler | The modern nation-state is a modern invention. Nationalism usually involves such an entity, or the desire to become such an entity because of ethnic identity. Pakistan, Israel, Iraq, and Kurdistan are modern examples of nationalisms. There is no Kurdish nation-state at the moment, but there is certainly Kurdish nationalism. I don't think you can use a religion that way, though -- 'Shi'a nationalism' or 'Sikh nationalism' just don't sound right. | |
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