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Timeline for Shakespeare and the tenses

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Oct 29, 2015 at 11:38 vote accept Ricky
Oct 21, 2015 at 4:01 answer added chasly - supports Monica timeline score: 3
Oct 17, 2015 at 17:18 comment added deadrat Less poetic, you say. That should provide a clue.
Oct 17, 2015 at 12:50 comment added TimR Caesar's reputation is the subject of the speech. "The evil that men do lives after them; /The good is oft interred with their bones;/So let it be with Caesar. " Reputation lives on after death, and so Caesar's weeping is viewed from the point of view of the present besmirching of that reputation, by Brutus, namely, that Caesar was "ambitious". Caesar has wept when the poor have cried. Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
Oct 17, 2015 at 10:58 comment added Ricky ))) Ah! Thank you. Makes sense now. I guess the combination of "When" and "have" confused me.
Oct 17, 2015 at 10:54 comment added Peter Shor I wouldn't use the present perfect in the Shakespeare example today, but it would be perfectly fine if Shakespeare were still alive. At Shakespeare's funeral? It might be acceptable.
Oct 17, 2015 at 10:52 comment added Ricky Because "He wept each time the poor shed bitter tears" appears to be less poetic yet more, uh, natural-sounding. I don't know.
Oct 17, 2015 at 10:48 comment added Ricky Hmm. According to this logic, the following sentence, written today, would be correct: "When his actors have asked him to write a new play, Shakespeare has always obliged." What am I missing?
Oct 17, 2015 at 10:48 comment added Peter Shor Why do you think it should be the simple past? See this webpage: use 1: present perfect used for an unspecified time before now; and use 5: multiple actions at different times in the past. I would guess that it's use 5—Caesar has wept several times when the poor have cried.
Oct 17, 2015 at 10:37 history asked Ricky CC BY-SA 3.0