Timeline for Why can an adjective be placed after "eat" as in "garlic can be eaten raw"?
Current License: CC BY-SA 4.0
33 events
| when toggle format | what | by | license | comment | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jun 24, 2018 at 14:24 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackEnglish/status/1010891478170730497 | ||
| Jun 23, 2018 at 17:04 | comment | added | Lambie | possible duplicate? … eaten raw/cooked, shot dead, tickled pink, found dead, struck dumb, etc. past participle + adjective. where the adjective is a gerund or regular adjective (adjunct). english.stackexchange.com/questions/328758/ | |
| Jun 23, 2018 at 16:46 | history | edited | tchrist♦ | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
edited title
|
| Apr 13, 2017 at 12:38 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
replaced http://english.stackexchange.com/ with https://english.stackexchange.com/
|
|
| Oct 15, 2015 at 7:50 | comment | added | Mari-Lou A | @Araucaria it's reopened | |
| Oct 15, 2015 at 7:48 | history | reopened |
Araucaria - Him Chenmunka Vilmar JEL Mari-Lou A |
||
| Oct 13, 2015 at 13:01 | history | edited | Araucaria - Him | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
added 32 characters in body
|
| Oct 13, 2015 at 12:37 | review | Reopen votes | |||
| Oct 15, 2015 at 7:48 | |||||
| Oct 13, 2015 at 12:16 | history | edited | Araucaria - Him | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
added 255 characters in body
|
| Oct 13, 2015 at 11:03 | comment | added | Edwin Ashworth | @Araucaria I think that (1) the original question is the broader one (but not too broad for ELU); (2) its title needs adjusting to say 'What is/are the underlying grammatical structure/s for these adjectival-following-verb sentences?; (3) your answer here would be the best answer there. This probably means that (4) it would be sensible to combine these threads. | |
| Oct 12, 2015 at 13:30 | comment | added | Araucaria - Him | @EdwinAshworth I read both (2 of?) your excellent posts about predicative constructions :) - but I didn't catch where they specifically mentioned why we should expect an adjective as opposed to an adverb, though ... (Btw, I thought your post at the linked to question would be even better if it mentioned that, yes, off-guard is indeed an object oriented Complement, but that the other types of depictive predicatives you mentioned probably aren't - because they are probably Edit not Complements, but Adjuncts (Advebials) ...) | |
| Oct 12, 2015 at 11:27 | history | closed |
Edwin Ashworth tchrist♦ Mitch Tragicomic Chenmunka |
Duplicate of In ‘catch me off guard’, is the ‘off guard’ an objective complement or adjective phrase? | |
| Oct 12, 2015 at 10:00 | comment | added | Edwin Ashworth | It's certainly answered at 'When can verbal passives be used in secondary predicates?' I hope you looked up 'depictive + resultative' here? | |
| Oct 12, 2015 at 9:35 | comment | added | Araucaria - Him | @EdwinAshworth Lastly, it's common to have adjectives as Complements of the verb, but it's rarer to have adjectives as modifiers of the clause, as opposed to within an NP. | |
| Oct 12, 2015 at 9:32 | comment | added | Araucaria - Him | @EdwinAshworth I don't think this is a dupe of that question for two reasons. Firstly this is depictive not resultative. Secondly, even though the example in the other Q is actually depictive not resultative, unlike this one it's not an Adjunct (Adverbial). It's a Complement. It's quite common to have Predicative Complements, but Predicative Adjuncts are much rarer and have less constraints. They are related though, agreed. (see my answer) | |
| Oct 12, 2015 at 9:29 | history | edited | Araucaria - Him |
added some tags
|
|
| Oct 12, 2015 at 3:13 | vote | accept | Tom | ||
| Oct 11, 2015 at 23:24 | answer | added | Araucaria - Him | timeline score: 5 | |
| Oct 11, 2015 at 15:38 | comment | added | Edwin Ashworth | 'I drink tea when it is hot' uses an adverbial temporal clause to tell when (really, metaphorically, under what conditions) the action occurs. But you are correct in judging that the semantic difference between this sentence and 'I drink tea hot' is minimal. Notice that 'hot' is an adjective even in the adverbial. | |
| Oct 11, 2015 at 14:59 | comment | added | michael_timofeev | @EdwinAshworth I see that now. What about my example sentence? Is that an adjective clause or adverbial clause? | |
| Oct 11, 2015 at 14:15 | comment | added | Edwin Ashworth | @michael_timofeev Have you read the linked answers? Essentially, you have to ask if the modification is describing the process (eg drinking: quickly, happily, fortnightly ...) or something else (the state of the tea drunk). He callously shot the outlaw contains an adverb describing something about the action; He shot the outlaw dead contains an adjective describing the resulting state of the object referent. | |
| Oct 11, 2015 at 0:01 | comment | added | michael_timofeev | @EdwinAshworth so what you guys are saying is the sentence, "I drink tea when it is hot," "when it is hot," is an adjective clause because the word tea is present? What about "I drink when it is hot." What does "when it is hot" modify? It? | |
| Oct 10, 2015 at 23:42 | comment | added | michael_timofeev | @EdwinAshworth quickly is an obvious example...this isn't so obvious. | |
| Oct 10, 2015 at 22:09 | comment | added | Edwin Ashworth | @michael_timofeev For the reason rogermue gives in his comment above. 'Raw' modifies 'garlic' rather than 'eaten'. Contrast "Sandwiches can be eaten quickly". | |
| Oct 10, 2015 at 16:50 | comment | added | michael_timofeev | @EdwinAshworth So why is this not a reduced adverbial? | |
| Oct 10, 2015 at 16:20 | comment | added | rogermue | The adjective raw means "you can eat garlic in raw state. "raw" does not describe the manner of eating. You can't eat rawly or cookedly. | |
| Oct 10, 2015 at 15:59 | vote | accept | Tom | ||
| Oct 12, 2015 at 3:13 | |||||
| Oct 10, 2015 at 12:42 | comment | added | Brian Donovan | See also Why “ruled supreme” instead of “ruled supremely”? | |
| Oct 10, 2015 at 12:31 | review | Close votes | |||
| Oct 12, 2015 at 11:27 | |||||
| S Oct 10, 2015 at 9:14 | history | suggested | michael_timofeev | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Cleaned up the question, and changed the last sentence to be more clear.
|
| Oct 10, 2015 at 8:43 | review | Suggested edits | |||
| S Oct 10, 2015 at 9:14 | |||||
| Oct 10, 2015 at 2:10 | answer | added | Greg Lee | timeline score: 1 | |
| Oct 10, 2015 at 2:01 | history | asked | Tom | CC BY-SA 3.0 |