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Jun 11, 2023 at 12:45	comment	added	tchrist♦		Related.
Dec 16, 2014 at 10:47	comment	added	Janus Bahs Jacquet		@dynamo Whether you write Aarhus or Århus is mostly a matter of politics these days, outside purely formalised contexts. Either way, though, you're more likely to be keelhauled for calling it a ‘town’ instead of a city. ;-)
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Dec 10, 2014 at 14:57	comment	added	user		It's worth noting too that in Swedish sorting, sometimes V and W are considered the same letter and sometimes they are considered different (sorted in that order). Now, W is not often used in Swedish so this isn't a big problem in practice.
Dec 10, 2014 at 11:59	comment	added	dynamo		An interesting case (I intentionally don't say "exception") is the Danish (and Norwegian) letter Å. This is a relatively new letter (as noted) and before its advent would be written Aa in upper case and aa in lower case. Note that the two letters a and a that it comprises are not independent letters. In modern Danish, the Aa variant of Å still exists (most often in names) and is treated just like Å. Hence, to find, for example, the town Aarhus in a Danish atlas, go all the way to the back! (The spelling Århus is, strangely enough, deprecated - although still seen.)
Dec 9, 2014 at 20:56	comment	added	O. R. Mapper		As a slight completion: Apparently, in an Austrian phone book, the person named Föhn would expect to find themselves right after the last names that start with Fo, and before the first (hypothetical) name that starts with Fp, if any. The English WP article provides a nice overview.
Dec 9, 2014 at 16:37	comment	added	gnasher729		I think this all applies not to English text per se, but to text that is sorted for the benefit of an English-speaking audience. So if a list of book titles contains a Swedish title, you'd apply these rules as best as you can to the Swedish letters. And on the other hand, if Leonard McCoy moves to Germany, he should be sorted according to German rules in a German phone book.
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Dec 9, 2014 at 4:56	comment	added	tchrist♦		@JonHanna Fixed in the next release. :)
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Dec 9, 2014 at 0:49	comment	added	Jon Hanna		About the only thing not covered in this great answer is sorting of characters outside of the A-Z alphabet, which has more variation—generally numbers and symbols before A and non-English letters after Z though with some collations having rules about the letters that were once used in English such as maybe Ð after D, but those rules differing in different collations, but this is less consistent than the stuff in this answer.
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