Timeline for Is saying "someone who is in trouble and who can’t be talked out of it" a quite natural expression?
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| Apr 8, 2011 at 8:05 | vote | accept | Yoichi Oishi | ||
| Apr 8, 2011 at 1:20 | comment | added | user1579 | @Yoichi: It's only passive because the article is about the pilot, not the air traffic controller. If the article had centred on the air traffic controller it would have said that he "couldn't talk the pilot out of it" in the active voice as usual. There's nothing about "talked out of" that makes it inherently use the passive, it's just the way the article is written. | |
| Apr 8, 2011 at 0:57 | comment | added | Yoichi Oishi | @Rhodri.Yes the pilot wasn’t in panic. He made up his mind to try rough landing whatever happens. It did not come to my mind that the pilot ‘could not be talked out of it’ means he was ‘not persuaded not to do’ rough landing. I am familiar with ‘be told not to do’, but quite unfamiliar with the use of talk in passive form as in ‘be talked not to do / out of it.’ | |
| Apr 8, 2011 at 0:16 | history | answered | user1579 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |