Timeline for Does a phrase "by itself" have to be gramatically correct
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| Aug 12, 2020 at 11:21 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Aug 12, 2020 at 11:11 | comment | added | Edwin Ashworth | Once you're below sentence level, 'grammaticality' becomes (I'm tempted to add 'even') less well-defined. And then there's the complication of headlinese that may be used in posters. Your critic should state the grounds for the criticism. If they're merely style considerations (and I don't see what else they could be), that would be off-topic as a point for discussion here on ELU. BUT I'd say that if you have a ghost hunt, the regular noun rather than the ing-form is far punchier. But I'd use i/Including after-hours ghost hunt! (capitalised if not a smooth follow-on; italicised; silly font). | |
| Sep 16, 2014 at 19:06 | comment | added | Frank | Just out of interest, what is an 'After hours ghost hunt', does it involve staying in a pub after hours and hunting ghosts and does it involve emptying bottles and glasses while searching for them? | |
| Sep 16, 2014 at 18:48 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Sep 16, 2014 at 18:08 | comment | added | WS2 | @Dave it is a clause, I suspect adjectival. | |
| Sep 16, 2014 at 18:06 | answer | added | Fattie | timeline score: 2 | |
| Sep 16, 2014 at 17:55 | comment | added | Dave | @WS2 if it not a sentence, what would you call it. With no sarcasm meant at all, I can't call it a collection of strings?! | |
| Sep 16, 2014 at 17:51 | vote | accept | Dave | ||
| Sep 16, 2014 at 17:51 | vote | accept | Dave | ||
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| Sep 16, 2014 at 17:50 | answer | added | Michael Lorton | timeline score: 2 | |
| Sep 16, 2014 at 17:49 | comment | added | WS2 | @Dave I don't see how either can be regarded as a sentence as neither contains an indicative verb. 'Including' is a present participle and the whole subordinate, adjectivally, to the main clause. | |
| Sep 16, 2014 at 17:47 | comment | added | Fattie | Yes, I'm totally with you now -- sorry | |
| Sep 16, 2014 at 17:46 | comment | added | Dan Bron | @Joe, see my comment below your answer on "headlines". I don't think these are headlines, and I don't think "posters" (as in large pieces of paper with stuff printed on them) are involved. | |
| Sep 16, 2014 at 17:46 | comment | added | Fattie | Dan dude - headlines are "language fragments" - NOT sentences. It's quite hard to find a headline or poster-copy that is a "whole sentence". Note too often they are simply "labels" (like on this page, "English language and usage" up top) | |
| Sep 16, 2014 at 17:45 | answer | added | Fattie | timeline score: 1 | |
| Sep 16, 2014 at 17:44 | comment | added | Dan Bron | @Dave, I'd expect these "sentences" to be embedded as clauses in larger sentences. In other words "Blah blah blah, including ghost-hunting after hours." That said, it's perfectly fine to break them out into sentences of their own. Either way, the second sentence is missing an article: "a ghost hunt...". | |
| Sep 16, 2014 at 17:44 | history | edited | Dave | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Sep 16, 2014 at 17:44 | comment | added | Fattie | He just explained IT IS A HEADLINE, NOT a sentence. | |
| Sep 16, 2014 at 17:41 | history | edited | Dan Bron | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Sep 16, 2014 at 17:41 | comment | added | Dave | @Gary'sStudent, yes it is! It is the full sentence. There was content before this, which ended with a full stop. Then the line above, as is! | |
| Sep 16, 2014 at 17:38 | comment | added | Gary's Student | These are not full sentences. Give us more context and we can help you construct full sentences. | |
| Sep 16, 2014 at 17:36 | history | asked | Dave | CC BY-SA 3.0 |