Timeline for Is “since-folded (TV network)” an accustomed English word?
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| Jul 29, 2014 at 10:47 | comment | added | Fattie | WS and Fumble - I'm surprised you're surprised by "folded". it's the usual slightly-pejorative choice in tabloid-esque writing, since it makes the company sound more like a flop or failure. (Yoichi - I'm sure you could find humorous usages like "since-fucked-up" or "since-screwed-the-pooch" .. company. You'd probably also see "since-exploded" "since-evaporated" and so on.) | |
| Jul 29, 2014 at 10:45 | comment | added | Fattie | Hey Yoichi -- it's a very-obvious combination in English. it's one of those weird things that is probably not common (it would be hard to find examples of it, I bet) but it's absolutely obvious and clear to any English speaker. "since-blah" is common and as Fumble explains "blah-closed" etc are all common. | |
| Jul 29, 2014 at 6:51 | answer | added | Volker Siegel | timeline score: 2 | |
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| Jul 29, 2014 at 1:12 | answer | added | Blessed Geek | timeline score: 2 | |
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| Jul 29, 2014 at 0:12 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | @WS2: Well, I'm not wild about folded myself, which is why I switched to closed (defunct isn't bad either). But I think the distinction is relevant if you consider other adjectival past tenses that might be used in similar ways. If I speak of a since-arrested thief it's even possible that by the time of speaking he might have been tried, convicted, served his time, and be out on parole. But if I say a now-arrested thief you can be pretty certain he's somewhere between having been arrested and having been convicted (because I'm describing his current state). | |
| Jul 29, 2014 at 0:01 | comment | added | WS2 | @FumbleFingers Not sure I think that distinction is relevant. My problem is with 'folded'. I suffer the disadvantage of having been an accountant, and the word's a bit too colloquial for me. I might speak of a now-closed, or since-closed, operation. A 'wound-up' company also has a definite legal meaning. But there is probably nothing terribly wrong with 'folded' - just that my preference would be elsewhere. | |
| Jul 28, 2014 at 23:46 | comment | added | FumbleFingers | I wouldn't take that usage as indicative of the primary "productive" version. Most people would probably go with now-folded, which applies in far more contexts. The only justification for using since- instead of now- is when you want to call attention to the event itself (the folding, in this case). In most cases even a past tense verb like that is primarily indicating the current state, and therefore it would more naturally be a now-closed network, not a since-closed one. | |
| Jul 28, 2014 at 23:16 | answer | added | nohat | timeline score: 10 | |
| Jul 28, 2014 at 23:06 | history | asked | Yoichi Oishi | CC BY-SA 3.0 |