Timeline for Should I write "that being said" (vs. "that's been said" or "Having said that")?
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| Dec 10, 2010 at 15:53 | comment | added | Colin Fine | It's an en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_construction. | |
| Nov 17, 2010 at 15:31 | comment | added | b.roth | @ShreevatsaR, yes, you're right, it's to introduce a transition, not exactly "however". | |
| Nov 17, 2010 at 15:20 | comment | added | ShreevatsaR | @Bruno: Good point. I wouldn't agree that they mean "however", but they are certainly most often used to introduce a transition, with the same function as "however". | |
| Nov 16, 2010 at 9:28 | comment | added | b.roth | @ShreevatsaR, "Having said that", "that said" and "that being said" actually mean "however". I think that the examples that you gave can mislead us from that meaning. Maybe a more appropriate example would be "I like turtles. Having said that, I would never have a turtle as a pet." | |
| Aug 7, 2010 at 16:54 | vote | accept | VonC | ||
| Aug 7, 2010 at 16:40 | comment | added | ShreevatsaR | @VonC: As njd says, "That's been said" is incorrect when used in the same context as the other two. That's what I also said. As an independent stand-alone sentence, it is fine. | |
| Aug 7, 2010 at 15:13 | comment | added | VonC | What do you think of njd's comment below, about "That's been said" being incorrect? | |
| Aug 6, 2010 at 16:28 | history | edited | ShreevatsaR | CC BY-SA 2.5 |
had left out "that"
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| Aug 6, 2010 at 8:56 | comment | added | ShreevatsaR | Yes of course, the sentence still requires a subject... probably I should have said it constrains you to a specific subject. :-) | |
| Aug 6, 2010 at 7:54 | comment | added | Alan Hogue | Of course both of those require subjects. It looks to me like the difference is that (1) is a stative predicate ("being said"), so it need not have an agent or causer in subject position. (2) ("having said") is not stative and requires an agent of some kind. | |
| Aug 6, 2010 at 7:43 | history | answered | ShreevatsaR | CC BY-SA 2.5 |