Timeline for Searching for a rare word for "something taken as truth due to having been repeated so much"
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| Aug 11, 2021 at 7:47 | answer | added | KAREN HARDISON | timeline score: 0 | |
| Jan 24, 2019 at 0:34 | answer | added | M. C. | timeline score: 0 | |
| Aug 24, 2017 at 15:41 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackEnglish/status/900744835170217986 | ||
| Jul 24, 2017 at 2:56 | comment | added | Phil Sweet | Ironically, groupthink seems to have escaped mention. | |
| Jul 23, 2017 at 22:12 | answer | added | Morgan | timeline score: 0 | |
| Apr 13, 2016 at 10:13 | answer | added | ghostarbeiter | timeline score: 0 | |
| Apr 13, 2016 at 7:44 | comment | added | Mari-Lou A | I think, the OP is thinking of fallacy (a mistaken belief, especially one based on unsound argument.) | |
| Apr 13, 2016 at 2:33 | answer | added | Al Maki | timeline score: 0 | |
| Apr 1, 2016 at 20:56 | answer | added | Charon | timeline score: 0 | |
| Apr 1, 2016 at 18:32 | answer | added | Parmenides Ephesus | timeline score: 0 | |
| Aug 26, 2015 at 21:17 | comment | added | d'alar'cop | What do we call HQ? | |
| Aug 26, 2015 at 21:00 | comment | added | Rand al'Thor | I just came back to this question because "geewhiz" (one of the answerers) is user123456 and I wanted to see what he'd posted. Give him a +1 and come to HQ ;-) | |
| May 30, 2015 at 2:21 | answer | added | geewhiz | timeline score: 2 | |
| Dec 18, 2014 at 15:53 | comment | added | d'alar'cop | @randal'thor Hello :D see you in HQ | |
| Dec 18, 2014 at 14:37 | comment | added | Rand al'Thor | Excellent question (and hi! :-D ) | |
| Nov 3, 2014 at 12:20 | comment | added | user26732 | The Osama example is a bad one since not based solely on repetition. But here's one: the alleged quote from Jean-Paul Sartre that Charles Bukowski is the greatest American poet. Rolling Stone reported the quote as having been printed in Esquire Magazine, except it wasn't. Since then the quote has been printed and re-printed but research shows that Sartre never said any such thing. Because of the multiple citations, people nevertheless believe that Sartre made the comment. | |
| Oct 30, 2014 at 14:07 | answer | added | Steve | timeline score: 0 | |
| Apr 14, 2014 at 2:17 | answer | added | Patrick | timeline score: -2 | |
| Mar 28, 2014 at 7:24 | answer | added | manu | timeline score: 0 | |
| Mar 27, 2014 at 22:30 | answer | added | GenericJam | timeline score: 1 | |
| Feb 13, 2014 at 16:58 | comment | added | user26732 | Evidence is not truth. There may be genuine evidence which points to something that did not happen. So "evidence" might be used. A discussion about an evidence-based position that was well-accepted and is apparently wrong sees the use of the word "myth" in comments about an article on Keynesian economics: washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/04/16/…. | |
| Feb 13, 2014 at 16:46 | answer | added | user26732 | timeline score: 6 | |
| Feb 13, 2014 at 12:09 | answer | added | Jon Hanna | timeline score: 3 | |
| Feb 10, 2014 at 12:13 | comment | added | d'alar'cop | @JonHanna My reasoning is this: There is no "evidence" - only repeated news stories on the subject; whether it happened or not is not the point (see above). Good day to you, sir. | |
| Feb 10, 2014 at 12:10 | comment | added | Jon Hanna | My point is that it doesn't count either way. Either the evidence is genuine, in which case it is true and believed due to evidence and doesn't count, or it really happened but the evidence is fake, in which case it is believed due to evidence and doesn't count, or it didn't really happen and the evidence is fake, in which case it is believed due to evidence and doesn't count. | |
| Feb 10, 2014 at 11:55 | comment | added | d'alar'cop | @JonHanna Oh I see... unfortunately there was no evidence besides the word of well-known and well-paid propagandists. i.e. I don't accept that there is any "evidence" and thus the belief is purely on the repetition and good PR. Also, I didn't want to get in a political discussion - I just couldn't think of something else at the time of posting the question. | |
| Feb 10, 2014 at 11:48 | comment | added | Jon Hanna | "An example of such a "something" (at the risk of getting political) is that Osama Bin Laden was killed in May 2011". No it's not; the reason people believe he was killed was that evidence was presented to that effect; whether it's true or not, it's not something believed just due to repetition. | |
| Feb 10, 2014 at 11:45 | comment | added | d'alar'cop | @JonHanna May you please clarify what, precisely, you are talking about? | |
| Feb 10, 2014 at 11:42 | comment | added | Jon Hanna | That's a pretty bad example, considering that it was a case where evidence was indeed presented. Even if it wasn't true and all that evidence was faked as part of some conspiracy, it still wouldn't count. | |
| Feb 10, 2014 at 10:57 | history | edited | RegDwigнt | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 10, 2014 at 6:17 | history | edited | d'alar'cop | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 10, 2014 at 6:12 | history | edited | d'alar'cop |
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| Feb 2, 2014 at 17:09 | comment | added | d'alar'cop | @Mitch Thank mate. Honestly I appreciate all the shots... and as you describe it, it could well be a match - also note truism occurs on no thesaurus I checked for the other candidates. | |
| Feb 2, 2014 at 16:29 | comment | added | Mitch | @Kris the MW link has first "a true statement that is very commonly heard : a common statement that is obviously true" - I suggested 'truism' because one can never be sure about a word one doesn't know yet but asks for (or of any word for that matter). I'm cherry picking in hopes that it gets what the OP wants. 'truism' always sound like, to me, something repeated often as a fact but unquestioned and so questionable. But that's me. | |
| Feb 2, 2014 at 6:57 | comment | added | Kris | @Mitch Even I remember having seen truism used in the sense of factoid, whether that's one of the alternate meanings or the author's mistaken use in stead of factoid I am not sure. However, I could not find a reliable source that defines truism that way at all. Even the MW reference you cite does not define the word that way. I had checked that one before. | |
| Feb 1, 2014 at 16:47 | comment | added | Mitch | To be pedantic, though I mentioned something about justification first, 'not necessarily justified' is not the same as 'unjustified'. | |
| Feb 1, 2014 at 16:35 | comment | added | d'alar'cop | @Mitch Yep, the question itself (and I) don't say anything about unjustifiability. Respectfully, you first mentioned it. The key thing is repetition and acceptance. So, yeah, it could be truism if it can indeed mean ONLY those 2 things too. | |
| Feb 1, 2014 at 16:33 | comment | added | Mitch | Dictionary definitions hardly ever say everything. Also, you didn't specify 'unjustified' in your question. Is that what you want? Either way, none of these are unjustified, just their justification is put in to question. | |
| Feb 1, 2014 at 16:24 | comment | added | d'alar'cop | @Mitch It doesn't say anything about it being potentially unjustified.... | |
| Feb 1, 2014 at 16:20 | comment | added | Mitch | The link I gave you does. | |
| Feb 1, 2014 at 15:45 | comment | added | d'alar'cop | @Mitch I see... yes, interesting. Can we find a dictionary that actually defines it as you say? | |
| Feb 1, 2014 at 15:39 | comment | added | Mitch | Is it 'truism' you're looking for? One connotation of it is that it is a statement repeated often and so taken as true, though not necessarily justified. | |
| Feb 1, 2014 at 14:17 | comment | added | d'alar'cop | fact + -oid; coined by Norman Mailer in Marilyn (1973): "facts which have no existence before appearing in a magazine or newspaper, creations which are not so much lies as a product to manipulate emotion in the Silent Majority". An inaccurate statement or statistic believed to be true because of broad repetition, especially if cited in the media. | |
| Feb 1, 2014 at 13:43 | answer | added | linguistourist | timeline score: 1 | |
| Feb 1, 2014 at 12:20 | vote | accept | d'alar'cop | ||
| Feb 1, 2014 at 12:13 | answer | added | Kris | timeline score: 10 | |
| Feb 1, 2014 at 11:41 | history | edited | d'alar'cop | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 1, 2014 at 11:35 | comment | added | d'alar'cop | Yes; I recall looking at the definition in a dictionary - the definition is paraphrased in the initial quoted phrase. | |
| Feb 1, 2014 at 11:34 | comment | added | Edwin Ashworth | 'I'm searching for a single word' / 'Searching for a rare word'. Are you sure one exists? Please phrase questions as questions. | |
| Feb 1, 2014 at 11:28 | history | reopened | RegDwigнt | ||
| Feb 1, 2014 at 11:25 | history | edited | d'alar'cop | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 1, 2014 at 11:22 | history | closed | RegDwigнt | Needs details or clarity | |
| Feb 1, 2014 at 11:17 | comment | added | d'alar'cop | Ohhh... no, I'm afraid not. "Myth" would be closest... The word will be something out of philosophy or politics. Possibly purely literary, even. | |
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| Feb 1, 2014 at 11:09 | comment | added | WS2 | Myth, legend, narrative? | |
| Feb 1, 2014 at 10:50 | history | asked | d'alar'cop | CC BY-SA 3.0 |