Timeline for Should the phrase "Man up" be considered offensive?
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| Aug 1, 2013 at 9:11 | vote | accept | Urbycoz | ||
| Jul 31, 2013 at 21:44 | comment | added | oosterwal | Is it still OK to say "That's ghey", as in "Liverpool Football Club's list of banned phrases is ghey"? | |
| Jul 31, 2013 at 18:41 | comment | added | Amory | @SvenYargs Species is a social construct anyway. | |
| Jul 31, 2013 at 18:22 | comment | added | Sven Yargs | Another option is to replace man with hominid. A shrill cry of "Hominid overboard!" (for example) is sure to draw the desired attention while avoiding quarrels over inappropriate gender or age specificity. | |
| Jul 31, 2013 at 17:52 | comment | added | Kristina Lopez | @Mari-LouA, realizing of course that most jockeys "ride", not spin platters. 'nough said. :-) | |
| Jul 31, 2013 at 17:46 | comment | added | Mari-Lou A | @KristinaLopez make a great crosswords definition: What's one up? :) | |
| Jul 31, 2013 at 17:42 | comment | added | Kristina Lopez | oh @Mari-LouA, you'll be explaining your alternative definition - a lot! yikes! | |
| Jul 31, 2013 at 16:52 | comment | added | Mari-Lou A | Quote from the link which made me guffawed: "Knob-jockey? The list of words I use every single day just grew by one" My definition? A DJ who plays door handles. | |
| Jul 31, 2013 at 16:23 | comment | added | toryan | @Amory for the record, I was referring to the bit that you just edited. So that's cool :) | |
| Jul 31, 2013 at 16:19 | comment | added | Amory | @toryan and Urbycoz I'm not using females to mean women, I'm intentionally drawing a distinction between terms for sex (male, female) and gender (men, women). | |
| Jul 31, 2013 at 16:16 | history | edited | Amory | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Sex and gender appropriate
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| Jul 31, 2013 at 16:01 | comment | added | Urbycoz | @toryan So, it doesn't apply to "girls" then? Just "women". | |
| Jul 31, 2013 at 14:59 | comment | added | toryan | @Amory Incidentally, the use of "females" to mean "women" is frowned upon. It looks bad in an otherwise good answer. (Wouldn't normally consider this worth mentioning, but it seems on-topic in this case). | |
| Jul 31, 2013 at 14:52 | comment | added | Avner Shahar-Kashtan | +1'd to counter the unwarranted (in my opinion) downvote. Answers can include opinions, in addition to information. This isn't a clinical encyclopedia. | |
| Jul 31, 2013 at 14:00 | comment | added | user19148 | @bib, the problem is that sentences like "A friend of mine coined(?) the phrase "grow some ovaries," which I personally like to use." are supposed to be considered with no content and no more than polling. | |
| Jul 31, 2013 at 13:59 | history | edited | Amory | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Provided link
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| Jul 31, 2013 at 13:55 | comment | added | Amory | @bib: Theoretically I agree, but the usage stems from a similar POV as my answer here, namely that since the original phrase is so well known, using an opposing phrase carries a subtext beyond its simple meaning. | |
| Jul 31, 2013 at 13:52 | comment | added | Thomas | @Amory Good points. | |
| Jul 31, 2013 at 13:50 | comment | added | Amory | @Thomas, Something like "Separate the men from the boys" is a good example where the phrase is contrasting "man" with "boy" yet still the overall sense is that being a manly male is the best thing around. Even if you throw in a "and the women from the girls" it still separates the genders/sexes. I suppose it's more about exclusion from the ol' boys club than direct sexism. | |
| Jul 31, 2013 at 13:49 | comment | added | bib | While "grow some ovaries" is an understandable riposte to "grow a pair [of testicles]", I am not sure continuing the use of gender favoring phrases will advance the cause of equality or civility. | |
| Jul 31, 2013 at 13:48 | comment | added | user19148 | While there may have been some legitimacy to the LFC's decision that an objective insultation must be banned, your enthusiastical agreement with, and the call to gay's rights, makes your answer subjective, -1. You know, we don't make politics on EL&U. | |
| Jul 31, 2013 at 13:43 | comment | added | Thomas | +1 especially for your suggested alternative. I'd be interested, though, in the etymology on this of whether it's contrasting "man" with "woman" or "man" with "boy". | |
| Jul 31, 2013 at 13:31 | history | answered | Amory | CC BY-SA 3.0 |