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Articles before ordinal numbers

I am a bit confused about differences in the usage of articles before ordinal numbers. Technically, it would be logical to always use "the" for instances like "the fourth time I did this" or "the ...
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(n-1)st/th: n minus oneth or first? [duplicate]

Should I write (n-1)th or (n-1)st Relatedly, is it "n minus oneth" or "n minus first". Thanks!
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What we should write in roman for ordinal numbers? [duplicate]

As we write 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th what we should write in roman for the same way?
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How do ordinal suffixes work with mathematical constants and other non-Arabic numbers?

This question was inspired by a tweet from the FakeUnicode Twitter account, a semi-novelty account sharing various examples in the wild of bugs, glitches and other unintended results from improperly ...
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“25th De­cem­ber” vs “25 De­cem­ber”: Should I use or­di­nals or car­di­nals for the day of the month?

In one of the IELTS lis­ten­ing tests, there is a fill-out-the-blank ques­tion read­ing: The mu­seum is not open on ___. My an­swer was “25th De­cem­ber”. How­ever, the of­fi­cial an­swer is “25 ...
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Why is the order for some words that function as ordinal numbers flexible?

Adjectives, numbers, and determiners have a set order when multiples are used to reference the same noun at once. When cardinal and ordinal numbers are used at the same time, the ordinal always comes ...
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Use of degree symbol for Latinate ordinal number shorthand

I remember often having professors in college use degree symbols to write shorthand versions of Latinate ordinal numbers. For example: 1° Primary 2° Secondary 3° Tertiary 4° Quaternary ...
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What word is an adjective meaning “not first”?

In the following sentences, what single word can I use to summarize the ordinal numbers second, third, fourth, etc.? When you take your second, third, fourth, etc. flu shot, call me. If you ...
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Primary, secondary, tertiary, etc… - what is the -ary for the etc? The nth-ary?

Target: I've been losing my mind ever since I learned "tertiary" corresponds to 3 instead of encompassing all the lower orders. I have bi-weekly need of a word in the same vein as primary/secondary, ...
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How to speak the line number? [closed]

What is the most common way to identify a particular line of code in a talk or lecture? On the seventeenth line of this code" On the line seventeen of this code" On the line number seventeen of this ...
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How do I write a variable as an ordinal number?

I'm charged with translating a technical document into English, and ran into a bit of an odd problem: the document refers to undefined numbers of elements, and uses letters to represent those numbers, ...
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Should I write “one of 2 things”, “1 of 2 things” or “One of two things” [duplicate]

I am proofreading some rules and came across the following: Each turn you must do 1 of 2 things: either take an action on 1 of the top 2 cards of your deck, or discard the top card of your deck" ...
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What comes after (Primary,unary),(secondary,binary),(tertiary,ternary),…?

I was curious to know what comes after: Primary, secondary, tertiary, ... This Oxford website says it is "quartenary, quinary, ..." But they are already taken! Unary, binary, ternary, ...
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How to use Ordinals with Numeric Date Ranges

Given a numeric date range, such as shown below, which is the correct usage of ordinals? Should I use none, one, or two? The event dates will be Dec 1-5 The event dates will be Dec 1-5th The event ...
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Ways to express popularity [closed]

I'm writing a piece about baby name popularity, and right now in order to express how popular a name was, I'm constantly using sentences in the form of: In [year number], Henry was the _th most ...
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Natural way of asking for ordinal position in athletic events [duplicate]

For the long jump event at my school athletics carnival, people nominate and then get arrange in a certain order. I am looking for a natural way of phrasing a question to get someone to tell me where ...
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Using ordinal indicators with Roman numerals [duplicate]

Is the use of ordinal indicators with Roman numerals grammatical and if grammatical, is it unneeded? For instance: She is in VIIth standard. What about in case the ordinal indicator was written as ...
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How to properly use the “second” ordinal number with the “second” time unit? [closed]

What I'm trying to say: "Look carefully at the second second of the video." This might be grammatically correct but it's weird to use. What are some better ways to say it? Context: The sentence is ...
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Sice, cinque, cater, trey, deuce, ace, and then?

The set of numbers for a six-sided die are: ace, deuce, trey, cater, cinque, sice. They originate from Old French (cf. un, deux, trois, quatre, cinq, six in modern French). Ace comes from Latin as, ...
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Why is the English word 'second' latin based but other numbers aren't?

Examples: one, two, three, etc. and first, third, fourth, etc. are all germanic and old english based, but "second" is Latin based. This also applies to "quarter" and I'm sure some others.
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Is vigenary a real word?

I was interested in determining words to describe ordinal Latinate series numbering above orders of 10 (i.e., "denary"). I found "duodenary", which makes sense based on the latin root duodecim, ...
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The passwords have been used for the second or more time [closed]

Is there any word/structure in English for the following usage? Here we calculate the total number of times that account passwords have been used for the second or more time (third, or higher ...
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Is it correct to say -1th or -1st?

I like to say -1 as negative one. So, should I say "negative oneth index" or "negative first index"? Which one is grammatical? Is there a way to avoid this problem altogether.
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Ordinal form of negative numbers (especially -1, -2, -3) [closed]

Ordinal numbers are traditionally considered to begin at 1: i.e., 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.  Yet, in the past 100 years, the word “zeroth” (0th) has begun to be used. Negative integers seem even more ...
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Uppercase ordinal numbers

Is it correct to use uppercase ordinals when the rest of the whole sentence should be in uppercase? 11TH FEBRUARY 2016 or 11th FEBRUARY 2016 among the above, which one is correct? Or are there no ...
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How do you pronounce “xth”?

I'm wondering how do you pronounce letters when used in place of ordinal numbers. Examples: The xth root of five. Two to the yth power. The ith odd number. The jth item on the queue. I know how to ...
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Alphabetic analogue of Numero sign (№)?

I'm typing up a spreadsheet that organises a television series's storyline, and the columns are supposed to be in the following format: . Is there an ordinal indicator I can put there where it says [...
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First, … Secondly, … &c

Take it for granted that enumerations have secondly, …; thirdly, …; finally, … Is there any reason, except tradition, to prefer the traditional first to firstly?
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How to avoid ordinal numbers when referring to a place in a queue?

I have the following sentence: "You are currently 5th in the queue" I'd like to avoid using ordinal numbers. What is the best way to rephrase this sentence such that it conveys the same meaning, ...
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Do we have to use ordinals with largest/smallest?

In every-day language, I would say, "Give me the fifth largest pumpkin you have"; that is I would use the ordinal. However, this feels clunky in mathematical texts, especially when reading out loud: "...
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Is there a term for a grammatical construction like “Exhibit A”?

Is there a term for names that consist of a noun or noun phrase followed by an ordinal letter or numeral? For example: Exhibit A The Land Before Time IV Patient Zero Perhaps ordinal proper noun or ...
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When is my son's first birthday?

[Clue: he was born three weeks ago, on 23 September 2014.] Originally, as I understand it, the word birthday meant the day of one's birth. It was a one-off event. I don't want to quarrel with the ...
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Is it OK to say “most likely want to buy”, “secondly likely…” and “thirdly likely…”? [closed]

Suppose there are 3 paintings for sale in a gallery, all at the same price, and you have examined them thoroughly. You say: I most likely want to buy the first one, and secondly likely want to ...
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What do we call the “rd” in “3ʳᵈ” and the “th” in “9ᵗʰ”?

Our numbers have a specific two-letter combination that tells us how the number sounds. For example 9th 3rd 301st What do we call these special sounds?
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Is there a way to ask the ordinal number value in English without sounding weird? [duplicate]

If the answer expected is It is an amazing car, then the question would be How is the car? If the answer expected is I got my red car then the question would be something like Which colour car did ...
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What noun describes “turning a cardinal number into an ordinal number”?

If I take a singular noun like 'person' and turn it into its plural 'people', I think I'm doing pluralisation (or, if you insist, pluralization). What am I doing if I take a cardinal number like '13' ...
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On average every 1.3rd or 1.3th something?

On average every 1.1st or 1.1th something? On average every 1.2nd or 1.2th something? On average every 1.3rd or 1.3th something? What is the correct formulation for a decimal ordinal number? Hah! ...
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Ordinal numbers usage

When you are delineating a set of statements which come one after another, could you use ordinal numbers but omit some of them in between ? For example, consider I want to describe the limitations in ...
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Colloquial alternatives to questions regarding the ordinals

I'm very well aware that this question is asked a myriad of times before but I want to know how one would phrase a question in every-day language to get the answer "n-th". What ordinal number ...
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Which ordinal indicator, if any, should be used on symbolic math variables?

Consider: “the n-th root of x” “the a-th derivative of b” and even more troublesome: “the ϑ-th something…” (thetath?) Is there a rule for which ordinal indicator to use on a name, or symbolic ...
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When were st, nd, rd, and th, first used [closed]

When were numeric contractions for ordinals first used, as in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 6th instead of first, second, third, sixth?
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Ordinal form of zero (“0”) [duplicate]

The ordinal form of zero doesn’t always make sense, but is used in math and computing. But how do we say and write it? Is it said zeroth, zeroith, or something else? In writing, is it 0th?
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How to ask about ordinal place of an offspring? [duplicate]

Here is the question: I want to know what is the ordinal place of someone in her family. For example, I'd say: I'm the second child of my parents. and afterwards, I'd like to ask something along ...
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Do I capitalize or write out 'first' if I write: “Her birthday was May First.”?

I'm writing a story in which a character's birthday (May 1st) is significant. A characters notes in conversation that, "Her birthday is May first." Should I write out 'first' or refer to it as '1st'? ...
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Should ordinal indicators be inline?

Recently, I received a few corrections on my research article. One of them was that the ordinal indicators like 'th', 'rd', etc., should be inline with the number and not as a superscript. For example,...
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Ordinal 3: 3rd vs 3d [closed]

What is the most correct form for 3 in ordinal form: 3rd or 3d? I know both are valid. But I heard that 3rd is something like spoken form and it's grammatically correct to use 3d.
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1st hour, 2nd hour, 3rd hour… But how to say “zero”-th hour?

E.g. in School we have 5-7 or 8 hours every day (Math, History, Biology, Chemistry, English etc.). The first hour starts at 8:00 A.M. But every Thursday we have an hour that stars at 7:10 A.M. In ...
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“the 1st” or “1st”

I'm wondering which is the right usage between "the 1st" and "1st" in these sentences: a) The United States ranked 1st in Bloomberg's Global Innovation Index. b) The United States ranked the 1st in ...
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Returning for the nth time

Suppose I went to the supermarket three times. Is my third trip considered my "second time returning there" or my "third time returning there?" Thanks. (I know this question sounds silly, but English ...
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How manieth as an ordinal number question [duplicate]

Possible Duplicates: How should I phrase a question that must be answered with an ordinal number (e.g., the third prime)? How to ask a question to get an ordinal number answer In my native tongue,...