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When is my son's first birthday?

[Clue: he was born three weeks ago, on 23 September 2014.] Originally, as I understand it, the word birthday meant the day of one's birth. It was a one-off event. I don't want to quarrel with the ...
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How should I phrase a question that must be answered with an ordinal number (e.g., the third prime)?

I want to make a question having an answer as follows: 5 is the third prime number. The bold part is the answer. How to phrase the question?
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What do we call the “rd” in “3ʳᵈ” and the “th” in “9ᵗʰ”?

Our numbers have a specific two-letter combination that tells us how the number sounds. For example 9th 3rd 301st What do we call these special sounds?
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(k+1)th or (k+1)st?

Mathematicians commonly have to form ordinals from variables: you might look at the kth element of a sequence, for example. When the variable is a single letter, the ordinal is always formed with the ...
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Framing a question whose answer is an ordinal number

I am the third daughter (or son) of my parents. OR I am the third child of my parents How should a question that is answered with the above sentences be framed?
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“Firstly” or “first”?

Which is more correct? How do I love thee? Let me count the ways. First, thy eyes gaze deep into my soul. Second,... or There are four reasons why all should hail the Hypno-Toad. Firstly, his ...
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How to ask a question to get an ordinal number answer [duplicate]

Possible Duplicates: How to phrase an asking sentence that must be answered with an ordinal number? Framing a question whose answer is an ordinal number Given that I want to know Barack Obama ...
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Why is there a period after the roman numeral in a royal title?

In The Wealth of Nations, whenever a royal name appears, there is a period after the roman numeral. Why is this, and why has the practice been discontinued? If you search this online copy for a royal ...
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How do you pronounce “xth”?

I'm wondering how do you pronounce letters when used in place of ordinal numbers. Examples: The xth root of five. Two to the yth power. The ith odd number. The jth item on the queue. I know how to ...
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“20th century” vs. “20ᵗʰ century” [closed]

When writing twentieth century using an ordinal numeral, should the th part be in superscript? 20th century 20th century
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Why doesn't “ninth” have an “e”, like “ninety”?

Is it just because "ninth" has only one syllable? That wouldn't make sense, though, because saying "NINE-ith" wouldn't be worse than saying "NINE-e-tee". If we were used to "nineth", we would have ...
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Is “-th” still a productive suffix in English?

The main question here is whether using -(e)th to create ordinals out of cardinals1 is still considered a productive suffix in English. Is it? If so, then does it matter whether we are in a formal ...
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Is there a straightforward word for “The thing in between first and second”?

Sometimes when writing I find myself looking for a word to describe something in the “³⁄₂th” place — exactly between first and second. I would like to ask, does there exist an easy expression for ...
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Should ordinal indicators be inline?

Recently, I received a few corrections on my research article. One of them was that the ordinal indicators like 'th', 'rd', etc., should be inline with the number and not as a superscript. For example,...
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1st hour, 2nd hour, 3rd hour… But how to say “zero”-th hour?

E.g. in School we have 5-7 or 8 hours every day (Math, History, Biology, Chemistry, English etc.). The first hour starts at 8:00 A.M. But every Thursday we have an hour that stars at 7:10 A.M. In ...
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Is vigenary a real word?

I was interested in determining words to describe ordinal Latinate series numbering above orders of 10 (i.e., "denary"). I found "duodenary", which makes sense based on the latin root duodecim, ...
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Why is the English word 'second' latin based but other numbers aren't?

Examples: one, two, three, etc. and first, third, fourth, etc. are all germanic and old english based, but "second" is Latin based. This also applies to "quarter" and I'm sure some others.
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Sice, cinque, cater, trey, deuce, ace, and then?

The set of numbers for a six-sided die are: ace, deuce, trey, cater, cinque, sice. They originate from Old French (cf. un, deux, trois, quatre, cinq, six in modern French). Ace comes from Latin as, ...
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Use of degree symbol for Latinate ordinal number shorthand

I remember often having professors in college use degree symbols to write shorthand versions of Latinate ordinal numbers. For example: 1° Primary 2° Secondary 3° Tertiary 4° Quaternary ...
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What comes after (Primary,unary),(secondary,binary),(tertiary,ternary),…?

I was curious to know what comes after: Primary, secondary, tertiary, ... This Oxford website says it is "quartenary, quinary, ..." But they are already taken! Unary, binary, ternary, ...
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How to ask “nth time” of something [duplicate]

Possible Duplicate: Framing a question to which the answer is an ordinal number How should I phrase a question that must be answered with an ordinal number (e.g., the third prime)? If the ...
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First, … Secondly, … &c

Take it for granted that enumerations have secondly, …; thirdly, …; finally, … Is there any reason, except tradition, to prefer the traditional first to firstly?
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When were st, nd, rd, and th, first used [closed]

When were numeric contractions for ordinals first used, as in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 6th instead of first, second, third, sixth?
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Which ordinal indicator, if any, should be used on symbolic math variables?

Consider: “the n-th root of x” “the a-th derivative of b” and even more troublesome: “the ϑ-th something…” (thetath?) Is there a rule for which ordinal indicator to use on a name, or symbolic ...
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How manieth as an ordinal number question [duplicate]

Possible Duplicates: How should I phrase a question that must be answered with an ordinal number (e.g., the third prime)? How to ask a question to get an ordinal number answer In my native tongue,...
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Interrogative form of a sentence [duplicate]

Possible Duplicate: How should I phrase a question that must be answered with an ordinal number (e.g., the third prime)? How to ask a question to get a cardinal number answer Neil Armstrong ...
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Ordinal 3: 3rd vs 3d [closed]

What is the most correct form for 3 in ordinal form: 3rd or 3d? I know both are valid. But I heard that 3rd is something like spoken form and it's grammatically correct to use 3d.
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On average every 1.3rd or 1.3th something?

On average every 1.1st or 1.1th something? On average every 1.2nd or 1.2th something? On average every 1.3rd or 1.3th something? What is the correct formulation for a decimal ordinal number? Hah! ...
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Returning for the nth time

Suppose I went to the supermarket three times. Is my third trip considered my "second time returning there" or my "third time returning there?" Thanks. (I know this question sounds silly, but English ...
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Ordinal form of negative numbers (especially -1, -2, -3) [closed]

Ordinal numbers are traditionally considered to begin at 1: i.e., 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.  Yet, in the past 100 years, the word “zeroth” (0th) has begun to be used. Negative integers seem even more ...
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Is there a term for a grammatical construction like “Exhibit A”?

Is there a term for names that consist of a noun or noun phrase followed by an ordinal letter or numeral? For example: Exhibit A The Land Before Time IV Patient Zero Perhaps ordinal proper noun or ...
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Why is the order for some words that function as ordinal numbers flexible?

Adjectives, numbers, and determiners have a set order when multiples are used to reference the same noun at once. When cardinal and ordinal numbers are used at the same time, the ordinal always comes ...
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How do you convert the sentence “George Washington was the first president.” to a question? [duplicate]

Possible Duplicate: How should I phrase a question that must be answered with an ordinal number (e.g., the third prime)? How do you convert the sentence: George Washington was the first ...
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How to frame a question to get answer about the turn that somebody has taken in doing something? [duplicate]

Possible Duplicate: How should I phrase a question that must be answered with an ordinal number (e.g., the third prime)? How to ask a question to get a cardinal number answer I want to frame a ...
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How do you say this in English? [duplicate]

Possible Duplicates: Framing a question to which the answer is an ordinal number How to phrase an asking sentence that must be answered with an ordinal number (e.g., the third prime) ? It is ...
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Adjective for not first but either second, third, fourth, etc

What is an adjective for something that is not first but either second, third, fourth, etc? We don't need to know what position it is at; the only thing that matters is that it's not the first one. ...
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How to speak the line number? [closed]

What is the most common way to identify a particular line of code in a talk or lecture? On the seventeenth line of this code" On the line seventeen of this code" On the line number seventeen of this ...
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Do we have to use ordinals with largest/smallest?

In every-day language, I would say, "Give me the fifth largest pumpkin you have"; that is I would use the ordinal. However, this feels clunky in mathematical texts, especially when reading out loud: "...
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“the 1st” or “1st”

I'm wondering which is the right usage between "the 1st" and "1st" in these sentences: a) The United States ranked 1st in Bloomberg's Global Innovation Index. b) The United States ranked the 1st in ...
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Uppercase ordinal numbers

Is it correct to use uppercase ordinals when the rest of the whole sentence should be in uppercase? 11TH FEBRUARY 2016 or 11th FEBRUARY 2016 among the above, which one is correct? Or are there no ...
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How to avoid ordinal numbers when referring to a place in a queue?

I have the following sentence: "You are currently 5th in the queue" I'd like to avoid using ordinal numbers. What is the best way to rephrase this sentence such that it conveys the same meaning, ...
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Articles before ordinal numbers

I am a bit confused about differences in the usage of articles before ordinal numbers. Technically, it would be logical to always use "the" for instances like "the fourth time I did this" or "the ...
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How to ask about ordinal place of an offspring? [duplicate]

Here is the question: I want to know what is the ordinal place of someone in her family. For example, I'd say: I'm the second child of my parents. and afterwards, I'd like to ask something along ...
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What is the correct way to express the ordinal form of a large number?

If I want to express... The 1114th person ...with the number in words, would it be best to do... The one thousand, one hundred and fourteenth person ...or hyphenated... The one-thousand-one-...
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How manyth son to your father? [duplicate]

Possible Duplicate: How should I phrase a question that must be answered with an ordinal number (e.g., the third prime)? Framing a question to which the answer is an ordinal number I know the ...
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How do ordinal suffixes work with mathematical constants and other non-Arabic numbers?

This question was inspired by a tweet from the FakeUnicode Twitter account, a semi-novelty account sharing various examples in the wild of bugs, glitches and other unintended results from improperly ...
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What will be the question for “he is my second son” [duplicate]

Possible Duplicate: How should I phrase a question that must be answered with an ordinal number (e.g., the third prime)? How do you convert the sentence “George Washington was the first president.”...
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Primary, secondary, tertiary, etc… - what is the -ary for the etc? The nth-ary?

Target: I've been losing my mind ever since I learned "tertiary" corresponds to 3 instead of encompassing all the lower orders. I have bi-weekly need of a word in the same vein as primary/secondary, ...
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(n-1)st/th: n minus oneth or first? [duplicate]

Should I write (n-1)th or (n-1)st Relatedly, is it "n minus oneth" or "n minus first". Thanks!
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How to use Ordinals with Numeric Date Ranges

Given a numeric date range, such as shown below, which is the correct usage of ordinals? Should I use none, one, or two? The event dates will be Dec 1-5 The event dates will be Dec 1-5th The event ...