Questions tagged [archaicisms]
Archaic or obsolete vocabulary and grammar.
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Was “thee” ever used as a nominative?
In The Witch of Blackbird Pond, a youth novel written in the 1950s and set in late-17th century Connecticut, the title character uses thee as a nominative throughout, moreover with third-person ...
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Why do we keep using the conjugated form of the verb "to do" before other verbs? [duplicate]
This seriously has me perplexed. I feel examples would better explain my question:
"What did you eat?" vs "What ate you?" *
Where did you go? vs "Where went you"?
using ...
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Is there an obscure word for a collector of obscure words?
I was reading a list on Mental Floss of "Obscure words for Collectors" with words like "Deltiologists" for people who collect postcards and "Arenophiles" for people who ...
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Why should we say, "He is risen," on Easter Sunday? [duplicate]
In reality, although this phrase may sound or feel like incorrect English, on Easter Sunday English-speaking Christians say this instead of saying, "He has risen."
Grammatical archaicisms ...
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Has the word/name Beelzebub ever had a diaeresis?
I recognize that the diaeresis is not in the common English language anymore, but I was wondering if Beelzebub was ever spelt Beëlzebub, as I have found quite recently that I was pronouncing Beelzebub ...
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archaic (Victorian prosaic?) use of "but"
My daughter is a first-year uni student (a hapless English major, like I was). She encountered a particularly evil homework question that employed uncommon (archaic) uses of the word 'but'.
For ...
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When (if at all) did "visit with" fall out of fashion?
When consuming media (films, books, etc.) set in historic eras, one often hears the phrase "visit with." For instance, in There Will Be Blood (set across the period 1898 - 1930), Daniel ...
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What does "take a high line" means?
Quote:"The greatest and perhaps the wealthiest. I am aware, Mr. Holmes, that you take a very high line in professional matters, and that you are prepared to work for the work's sake. I may tell ...
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Had rather; grammar explanation
In the Iliad (translated by Samuel Butler) I have lit upon the phrase had rather here:
But the son of Peleus again began railing at the son of Atreus, for he was still in a rage. "Wine-bibber,&...
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Unusual words used to denote a specific length of time? [closed]
I'm looking for unusual/uncommon words that refer to a period of time. Something like fortnight:
(chiefly UK, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, dated in North America) A period of 2 weeks. (...
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What does "what man soever offendeth" mean?
What does the following sentence mean?
He shall be punished, what man soever offendeth.
(It is from the Internet site The Forest of Rhetoric silva rhetoricae.)
I have a feeling that this means "...
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What's the archaic past tense for "say"?
And his disciples came to him, and awoke him, saying, Lord, save us: we perish. And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and ...
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English equivalent of German da- constructions
In German, the prefix da- can precede a number of prepositions, and in each case the compound da preposition is an anaphor, with the meaning of the preposition itself + it. For instance, the ...
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I know that "What do you here?" is a valid sentence, but I can't quite parse it to explain to others
I've always been bothered by how people say the translation of Castlevania: Symphony of the Night is terrible and full of errors, and the number one thing they point to for the error part of the ...
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Wouldst thou like or likest?
The phrase "wouldst thou like" seems more appropriate to me, for the following reason:
As far as I know, "thou wilt like" is correct, and "thou wilt likest" is not, ...
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What is the meaning of "lugubration"?
I could have sworn "lugubration" was a word, but dictionaries I check either draw a blank, or suggest it's a spelling error of "lucubration".
And yet .. it shows up in historical ...
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What does this (likely archaic) usage of "down" mean?
In one of a series of letters widely believed to be written by the serial killer Jack the Ripper (commonly referred to as the "Dear Boss" letter) the author makes use of the following phrase:...
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Prepostition 'as to' in poetry
So I ran accross this line in a poem of Alexander Pope:
Vice is a monster of so frightful mien As to be hated needs but to be
seen; Yet seen too oft, familiar with her face, We first endure, then
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What does having a hat "on three hairs" mean, and where does that expression come from?
In my reading I came across this description:
His old red coat was sponged and pressed, his whiskers shone with pomade, his cap was on three hairs, his cane under his arm, and his monocle in his eye. ...
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How to parse/interpret the unusual wording on a diploma?
My SO just earned a PhD and received their diploma, and we were both puzzled by the wording. I'm copying it line by line, including punctuation (but omitting the school/personal specifics in brackets)....
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Corpus vs. corpse
I found this definition on Wikidiff:
"The difference between corpus and corpse
is that corpus is the body while corpse is a dead body"
While in Collins and Merriam Webster I found this ...
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What are "the dear years" in Redgauntlet?
"Wandering Willie's Tale" is a short story embedded within Sir Walter Scott's novel "Redgauntlet" (1824). It's written in Scots and/or Scottish English (I'm not certain where those ...
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What is meant by "offence can scarcely be visited on the quantity"
The full text is below.
"Friend, be not tedious," said the Rajah of Travancore to a Christian
missionary, in the sixteenth century, "remember life is short." I have
endeavoured to ...
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Why is "from" used in "from henceforth"?
The dictionaries unanimously include the word from in their definitions of henceforth:
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M-W: from this point on
Henceforth, supervisors will report directly to the manager.
Cambridge: starting ...
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Word for "object of malignant joy"
I would need a literary synonym of toy, but which would also have the nuance of object of malignant joy. I would like to use it in the context of someone becoming the toy (?) of some evil powers ...
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Is there any difference between "thou wast" and "thou wert"?
Today I realised for the first time that in the KJV Bible both thou wast and thou wert are used, and I was intrigued by the need to have two forms for the same person and number of the past tense ...
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"... His entreaties which are hearkened/hearkened unto by God"
The verb to hearken is an archaic verb which I need to use for my translation into KJV Bible style of English.
I see it used with the prepositions to and unto in the KJV, but never in this structure:
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Why "thine heart" but "thy whole heart"?
I have somehow picked up the use of the two different forms "thy/thine" from the KJV Bible, and I thought I knew the rule. Use thy before consonants and thine before vowels or before words ...
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Why is it 'three score years and ten' almost half the time and not always 'three score and ten years'?
Why is it 'three score years and ten' almost half the time and not always 'three score and ten years'?
Note: I edited the question body and title in light of comments and answers pointing me to a ...
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what does the sentence "all is not the moon surrounded by stars" mean?
I saw this sentence when watching Leonardo (2021). It sounds archaic and I'm confused. I've seen sentences like "all that glistens is not gold" and "all is not lost", but this one ...
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A complicated sentence occurring in Tolkien's "Silmarillion"
I've come across a rather complicated sentence in Tolkien's work "The Silmarillion" and I'm afraid that I need some help at understanding its meaning, and therefore its grammar. It reads as ...
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A-roving, a-walking, a-verb participle: what is this called? [duplicate]
Is there a name for the archaic form of a-verb participle, as in a-walking?
It appears in poetry and songs, for example,
As I was a-walking down Paradise Street...
Time is the stream I go a-fishing ...
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Meaning of "make trim of"
In the Life of Flavius Josephus, as translated by Whiston in the 18th century, Josephus says:
Moreover, when I was a child, and about fourteen years of age, I was
commended by all for the love I had ...
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What does the apostrophe in the expression ‘I’ faith’ mean?
In older translations of Latin texts (and I would presume Greek as well), the phrase I’ faith is quite common. Examples from Plautus’ Menaechmus 2.2 and 2.3:
CYLINDRUS
I’ve catered well, and to my ...
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Why did Thomas Paine use both "hath" and "has" in the same sentence?
My understanding is that "hath" is archaic, but has exactly the same meaning as "has".
But then why would an educated writer use both in the same sentence when writing a formal ...
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What word was used with the meaning of "suicide" pre-1650s?
Online Etymology Dictionary puts the origin as such:
"deliberate killing of oneself," 1650s, from Modern Latin suicidium
Wiktiobary here puts:
Suicide, 1651, New Latin coinage (probably ...
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Are there any old third-person singular pronouns the way “thou” is an old second-person pronoun?
Thou is an old second-person singular pronoun in English.
Are there any old third-person singular pronouns?
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Is the Christmas carol “We Three Kings” intentionally ungrammatical for artistic reasons, or does it use archaic grammar?
I was listening to the “We Three Kings” Christmas carol, and I ended up
taking note of the syntax. Given the use of the thou/thy/thee/thine
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Uncorrect vs. Incorrect; Do the two words have the same meaning?
I often heard professors at the University I was enrolled in use the word "uncorrect."
The word 'uncorrect' is in some reputable English dictionaries, and conspicuous by its absence in ...
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Unusual or archaic usage of "young"
"Well, you've probably never been in a tighter place than you are
today! If there's a lunatic hiding on this island, he's probably got a
young arsenal on him - to say nothing of a knife or ...
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Is there a single word that means "next year"?
I remember reading a text (I think it was written in Early Modern English, so the word I'm thinking of might be kind of archaic) and seeing just one word that meant "next year," would anyone ...
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What were/are the rules regarding relative pronouns from c. 1800?
I've been reading some rather old literature, often ranging from the 18th Century through to the late 19th Century, and I'm trying to increase my comprehension of the material, at least to the extent ...
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Do people in Britain use this structure nowdays? Or is it considered archaic there? [closed]
I found it on one website about If I were/If I was usage, and I'm not sure it's common:
If I had been a boy, I would have happily roamed outside all night.
“if I had been” talks about a particular ...
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Why "Giraffe" as a name for the animal?
My question is based on my interest in the evolution of the Giraffe's name.
Etymology Online Dictionary puts the following:
Giraffe: long-necked ruminant animal of Africa, 1590s, giraffa(...)The ...
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Is the archaic meaning of "exact" different from how we use it today?
In the poem On his blindness by John Milton, we find these lines
“Doth God exact day-labour, light denied?”
Keeping in mind the lines above and lines below the quoted line, the quoted might mean ...
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Deciphering two words from their Archaic spellings
I am translating the 1509, first English Translation of Sebastian Brant's The Shyp of foyls (The Ship of Fools), and came across two words which, for the life of me, I could not construe or make ...
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Affect in something? (a phrase from an older book)
Reading an old tale from C.A.Smith, there is the following sentence:
About him, there was nothing whatever of the lineaments of our own
period; and he even went so far as to affect in his costume an
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Figuring out the meaning and syntax of the English translation of Charmides
I was reading The Dialogues of Socrates translated into English and one particular sentence in Charmides sprung out as odd. I can't tell what it is trying to say, but I also can't figure out if it is ...
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What did "simples" mean in the 1800s?
This is from Mark Twain's "The Innocents Abroad":
They flocked to our poor human doctor this morning when the fame of what he had done to the sick child went abroad in the land, and they ...
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Is "standard" an archaic synonym for an athletic team or club?
This was passed along to me (native US speaker) by a non-native speaker.
A school in the UK asks for the following details...
Games
Teams and Standards
Extra-curricular Activities
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