I distinctly remember encountering a phrase of the form

in {???} memory

with meaning opposite to "in recent memory", i.e. "since forever", but I can't recall what adjective went in the {???} slot.

It's not "since time immemorial".

  • In what context did you encounter it?
    – Joachim
    Feb 18, 2023 at 11:04
  • I don't remember. I just want to say something like "This is the most buggy release of CoolSoftwareSuite™ in {???} memory", i.e. "not even the oldest Native elders remember a more buggy one". I am sure I have encountered a phrase exactly like that, I just forgot the adjective. Feb 18, 2023 at 11:09
  • "Since forever" is not English. See my comment on the answer you wrongly accepted.
    – David
    Feb 18, 2023 at 17:14
  • You can express the idea in the context you give by "that anyone can remember". or just "in memory".
    – David
    Feb 18, 2023 at 17:20

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You may be thinking of

since living memory (Power Thesaurus)

  • Yes, "within living memory", that's the one! Feb 18, 2023 at 11:25
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    Note that "within living memory" means during a time that can be remembered by people who are still alive.
    – fev
    Feb 18, 2023 at 11:27
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    @SzczepanHołyszewski Living memory is definitely not "since forever"; that is "since time immemorial," because no-one can remember since forever. "In living memory" means that people do remember it, even though it may be in the dim and distant past.
    – Andrew Leach
    Feb 18, 2023 at 14:27
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    "Since living memory" is not English, a language in which "since" is always used with a fixed time point, unlike French and German. The Thesaurus may have humoured your request, but if you do a general Google search all you'll get is "in/within" living memory.
    – David
    Feb 18, 2023 at 17:13
  • @David Is "since forever" a fixed time point? "Since living memory" may not be common, but it is used.
    – fev
    Feb 18, 2023 at 17:13

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