I've noticed that some UK accents have the LOT vowel in words like nothing, none or one, whereas others have the STRUT vowel. The Lexico and Cambridge online dictionaries only give the STRUT pronunciation. Can anyone tell me where in the UK the LOT vowel tends to occur instead? I know that at least some Yorkshire accents have the FOOT vowel in one, so it's not a simple north/south divide.

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    Is it the British HOT vowel or the American HOT vowel (which would be closer to the British START vowel)? Those are quite different vowels. Nov 10, 2020 at 4:12
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    I have known a handful of people with LOT in those words, and I can't say that they had any regional background in common - or indeed any other noteworthy features of their accent...
    – AakashM
    Nov 10, 2020 at 11:26
  • Are we agreed on Strut, Pronunciation: Brit. /strʌt/, U.S. /strət/ - Lot, Pronunciation: Brit. /lɒt/, U.S. /lɑt/ - Nothing, Pronunciation: Brit. /ˈnʌθɪŋ/, U.S. /ˈnəθɪŋ/ - none, Pronunciation: Brit. /nʌn/, /nɒn/, U.S. /nən/ - One, Pronunciation: Brit. /wʌn/, /wɒn/, U.S. /wən/?
    – Greybeard
    Nov 10, 2020 at 11:47
  • I'm the OP - for some reason I didn't seem to be able to post from this account yesterday so I used a guest account, which means I can't log back in to respond to the comments. Anyway @PeterShor I meant the British HOT vowel...
    – rchivers
    Nov 10, 2020 at 13:24
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    At the link above, I have just seen nothing / `nɒθɪŋ / LPD "§"
    – Greybeard
    Nov 10, 2020 at 18:56

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Wells (1982: 261) says:

one is /wɒn/ in parts of the north, rather than the expected /wʊn/ (RP /wʌn/); the /wɒn/ area includes Birmingham, Stoke, Liverpool, Manchester and Sheffield. Further east and north there is indeed /wʊn/, it having in some places displaced traditional-dialect forms such as /jan/. In a somewhat more restricted area, once, among, none and nothing may also be encountered with /ɒ/.

Roach (2009: 162) identifies "the Midlands and north-western England" to be the area in which words such as one, none, nothing, tongue, mongrel, constable are pronounced with /ɒ/.

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