# How do "need" and "not" mix and match?

1. You don't need to play
2. You need to not play
3. You need not play
4. You needn't play
5. You need not to play

What does each of these mean, and which ones are equivalent to the others?

Is the meaning of the negation equivalent to what I would get if I replaced need with "must"/"have to"?

• Your question is a little vague. Even though "must" and "have to" mean the same thing, "You must not play" does not mean the same thing as "You don't have to play". Commented Jan 13, 2012 at 14:49
• @PeterShor I'm sorry if the last bit was confusing - I was just wondering if "don't need to" worked like "don't have to", "need to not" worked like "must not" and "needn't" worked like "mustn't" as far as negation of the auxiliary vs negation of verb is concerned. The answer is negative, indeed I was thinking 2 and 3 would be the same.
Commented Jan 13, 2012 at 15:20
• Pedants will object to #2 as a split infinitive. But if you "unsplit" the infiinitive, the meaning becomes less clear ... which is why I think the split-infinitive rule should not be taken to rigidly.
– Jay
Commented Jan 13, 2012 at 15:41
• @Jay: Those pedants who object are wrong. Commented Jan 13, 2012 at 16:05
• For a little more on need not see needn't = don't need to? and why use need not instead of do not need to but not ...noun that describes need not. Commented Jan 13, 2012 at 16:57

You should expand your contractions and keep track of what the word "not" is modifying.

1. You don't need to play => You do not need to play (here "not" modifies need)
2. You need to not play (Here "not" modifies play)
3. You need not play (Here "not" modifies need)
4. You needn't play => You need not play (same as #3)

1, 3, and 4 all mean "You are not required to play", whereas #2 means "You are prohibited from playing".

"need not" has the same meaning as "do not need" and the latter is more commonly used. Nobody would say #2 unless they meant to emphases that you need to avoid playing, and in that case they'd likely stress the word "not":

You need to NOT play (because if you play your head injury will come back and you'll be brain-damaged).

Even though #2 is technically correct people are far more likely to say

You must not play

to express the same prohibition.

Edit: #5, which was added, says

You need not to play.

This sentence is not grammatical to me as it stands.

• My impression is that "do not need to" is only used more commonly than "need not" in the U.S., but both constructions are fine on both sides of the Atlantic. Commented Jan 13, 2012 at 15:01
• One distinction is that need not sounds somewhat more archaic/formal than do not need to or don't need to. Commented Jan 13, 2012 at 15:59
• I'm sorry, the discussion on the question drove me to add another form I'm now no longer sure about. Please see the updated question.
Commented Jan 13, 2012 at 18:50
• @badp Updated . Commented Jan 13, 2012 at 19:32

I am interpreting needing to do something as meaning that something bad will happen if you don't.

1. This means you don't have a need to play. Nothing bad will happen if you don't play.

2. This means you have a need to not play. Something bad will happen if you do play.

3. and 4. These are the same as 1. "Need not" is an expression that means "You don't need". Needn't is an abbreviated form.

You can only replace "need to" with must in sentence 2. "You must not play" is similar to "You need to not play", and is a more natural way of expressing it. There isn't really a nice way of expressing a lack of need, using must.

You can replace "need to" with "have to" without changing the meaning, in sentences 1 and 2.

There isn't a good way of substituting "must" or "have to" in sentences 3 and 4.

• I'm sorry, the comments on the question drove me to add another form I'm now no longer sure about. Please see the updated question.