"Great for the chase" vs "Expert in the chase"

I found these two clauses on the same page of The Iliad:

Then Menelaus son of Atreus caught the brilliant hunter Scamandrius with his sharp spear. Scamandrius was a great man for the chase, who had been taught by the goddess Artemis...

Then in a note below I read:

Scamandrius, expert in the chase, is killed by Menelaus.

What's exactly the difference between the two?

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    If you are a great man for or a great one for something, you are very keen on it (and probably very good at it). The phrase you have used in the heading, expert for, is not idiomatic - it's expert in or at. Commented Jun 23, 2020 at 16:09
  • @chasly from UK. I edited the mistake. Thank you.
    – Fra
    Commented Jun 23, 2020 at 16:33

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"great man" is a noun.

In this context, "expert" is an adjective (some would say it's an adverb).


Is John good at tennis?

He is an expert (in the game of tennis)

Here 'expert' is a noun.

Is John good at tennis?

He is expert (at the game of tennis)

Here 'expert' qualifies John's quality of playing.


"A good man in X" is different from "A good man for X"

John is a good man in a difficult situation. (This mean that John is capable and you want to have him on your team when things get tough)

John is a good man for hunting. (This mean that John likes hunting and will always accept an invitation to go hunting)

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