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From the site of the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals the title "Dip ACVB" is used. As the information I was reading was about certification or qualification, I assumed the "Dip" stood for "Diploma", however the following quote shows that it stands for "Diplomat":

To become a Diplomat of the American College of Veterinary Behaviorists (Dip ACVB), veterinarians must complete a residency in behavior and pass a qualifying examination.
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I wasn't expecting that. My next thought was that "diplomat" can mean something like "a person holding a diploma", then in that sense the person with the title "Diplomat of the American College of Veterinary Behaviorists" makes sense because a person can hold a diploma from that college. But I've checked every free dictionary online, and only two related definitions are shown usually. The first one being roughly "a person representing a country". The second one, if given, is usually along the lines of:

  1. a tactful person skilled in managing delicate situations.
    Random House Kernerman Webster's College Dictionary

I doubt that the "diplomat" in the abovementioned title means the definition I've just quoted, or any of the others I've found. In any case I could possibly find out what the college means by asking elsewhere.

But my question relevant to this site is can or does "diplomat" mean a person holding a diploma, or was it used in this way in the past? The dictionaries I've checked don't give any such definition.

Edit: As Lawrence has pointed out, dictionaries DO define "diplomate" as a "person holding a diploma".
In that case it may be just a spelling error. Note, I think this word is mainly used in the US, though Google NGrams shows double the frequency of it in AmE when compared to BrE.

Merriam-Webster
Oxford Dictionaries (lexico.com)
American Heritage Dictionary

  • There's no reason to suppose that becoming a Dip ACVB has any direct connection to having a diploma. Obviously the words diploma and diplomat are etymologically and semantically related, but the specific differences will be clearly defined by any dictionary. You can't find the definition diplomat = holder of a diploma, because the word isn't used with that sense. – FumbleFingers Oct 12 '19 at 12:42
  • @FumbleFingers It's my guess that the website is using the word incorrectly, and that it probably does relate to having a diploma. – Kate Bunting Oct 12 '19 at 12:52
  • @Kate Bunting: I think it's a deliberately whimsical usage. It's unlikely any competent native speaker would be unaware of the issue here. The clincher for me is that apparently Board-certified specialists are known as Diplomates. (That looks pretty "facetious" to me! :) – FumbleFingers Oct 12 '19 at 13:19
  • If you look up "diplomat of the college" in a Google search, you'll find quite a few relevant examples as used by respected institutions, eg << European College of Veterinary Clinical Pathology ... - esvcp esvcp.org › publications › 303-ecvcp-constitution-revised-2006 › file A Non-practicing Diplomat of the College >> / << ICL ... Mr Philip A.J. Townend (Civil and Environmental Engineering ...He obtained his MSc and was a Diplomat of the College (DIC) >> / << Diplomat of the College of Radiographers. BSc (hons) psychology. Msc (Cambridge) >> .... Often vetty. Dictionaries ... – Edwin Ashworth Oct 12 '19 at 13:40
  • will almost certainly soon include this (needed) sense. But well spotted. – Edwin Ashworth Oct 12 '19 at 13:41
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In a manner of speaking, yes, a diplomat is a person with a diploma, but not in the way your ACVB quote suggests.

Consider the wikipedia note on terminology:

"Diplomat" is derived from the Greek διπλωμάτης (diplōmátēs), the holder of a diploma, referring to diplomats' documents of accreditation from their sovereign.

Etymonline draws the etymology of diplomat through French and Latin, sidestepping the term diploma:

"one skilled in diplomacy," 1813, from French diplomate, a back-formation from diplomatique "pertaining to diplomatics," from Modern Latin diplomaticus (see diplomatic) on model of aristocrate from aristocratique.

Etymonline's entry for diplomatic suggests a link to the official papers carried by travellers "to the provinces". It notes that the Latin stem diploma refers to "a state letter of recommendation". This is repeated in Etymonline's entry for diploma.

So it would appear that diploma can refer to a document that diplomats (used to) carry; in this sense, a diplomat 'is' the "person with a diploma". As far as I am aware, diploma is no longer used this way. The relevant document is called a letter of credence or diplomatic credentials.

A letter of credence (French: Lettre de créance) is a formal diplomatic letter that appoints a diplomat as ambassador to another sovereign state. Commonly known as diplomatic credentials, the letter is addressed from one head of state to another, asking him to give credence (French: créance) to whatever the ambassador may say on his country's behalf. The letter is presented personally by the ambassador to the receiving head of state in a formal ceremony, marking the beginning of the ambassadorship. - wikipedia

The similar-sounding term for a person holding a diploma from an educational institution is diplomate.

diplomate noun (US) A person who holds a diploma, especially a doctor certified as a specialist by a board of examiners. - lexico

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    Ahh, I might have instinctively assumed "diplomat" meant person holding a diploma from seeing the word "diplomate" before. I definitely haven't seen this word more than a couple of times in my life, otherwise I would have recognized that maybe they meant "diplomate". Maybe it's a spelling error, who knows. – Zebrafish Oct 13 '19 at 1:47
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No - "Graduate" would be the correct term.

My suspicion is the person that wrote that is not a graduate!

The Cambridge Dictionary (and most others)states:

"Diplomat - an official whose job is to represent one country in another, and who usually works in an embassy.", or possibly

"a person who is skilled at dealing with difficult situations in a way that does not offend people."

Nowhere can I find, or have I ever heard of the use of "Diplomat" in the terms used by the ACVB. Perhaps they meant to use "Ambassador" and have conflated this to become "Diplomat".

No question that a Country's Ambassador is also a Diplomat and that (s)he is an official whose job is to represent one country in another and is someone who usually works in an embassy" but, as far as I am aware, the use of Diplomat to identify someone that has a Diploma is (As far as I am aware) an incorrect use of the word Diplomat.

If your aim is clarity rather than 'trend setting' I think I would avoid this usage since, as the questioner demonstrates, it causes confusion rather than clarity.

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  • Hello, Neil. If you look at the guidelines in the Help Center, you'll see that for a question to be considered good on ELU, it must be accompanied by linked attributed supporting evidence. Unsupported answers often come across as (and often are) mere opinion. / Some establishments are using the term in the stipulated way. Would you advise people not to apply to these institutions? I'd check to see who that would include. – Edwin Ashworth Oct 12 '19 at 16:49
  • Just because more than an establishment uses a word [incorrectly] this does not make it correct. Two wrongs not = a right etc... I understand that language is in a constant state of flux but, as the question identifies, this [mis]use creates confusion and a lack of clarity, hence the question. Language is about [clear] communication... Can you identify any dictionary or other reliable source that defines "Diplomat" in any way different to the Cambridge Dictionary? If not, I'd argue that this is an incorrect usage and unhelpful, as it creates ambiguity and confusion. – NeilB Oct 12 '19 at 22:59
  • "... as the question identifies, this [mis]use creates confusion and a lack of clarity, hence the question", if true, which I don't accept, would mean that the question was merely a 'This shouldn't happen!' gripe. It would be totally unacceptable on ELU. // OP lists dictionaries not licensing the 'holder of a diploma' sense. I'd like to know whether OED does. (But even OED states that non-inclusion of a candidate word cannot be taken as proof that ... – Edwin Ashworth Oct 13 '19 at 11:29
  • the candidate is not in the English lexis.) I'd say the above (as revised) is a reasonable stance / opinion, but hasn't the gravitas an answer here requires. – Edwin Ashworth Oct 13 '19 at 11:29

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