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I know this is a question asked by many times.I also know unvoiced /th/ should never be pronounced as /f/.

But in this video youtube/watch?v=G-gfBBOqBJM

Jennifer Rush - The Power Of Love 1985

among the 1st paragraph,Are rolling by like thunder now. My problem is the word thunder.

Though I had adjusted the speed to 0.25 ,listened again and again,I could only get funder,I also watched the shape of her mouth carefully,I noticed that her upper teeth touch the lower lip.

in another video

youtube/watch?v=2KHt_DTE1To

also Jennifer Rush,I can clearly hear the unvoiced /th/ in thunder.

any help?Thank you

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  • I hear thunder. The th is quite long - maybe you are missing the start of it .
    – user339660
    Commented May 8, 2019 at 8:30

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You might draw a distinction between so-called standard English pronunciation, and variant pronunciations.

Any text book of English as a foreign language (no matter whether British or US or other) will have the same standard pronunciation. But the pronunciation ‘funder’ is common as a local variant, especially for people born in London and the South East. It is associated with what used to be called the ‘working’ or ‘lower’ classes. So it is frowned on in more formal discourse.

How it arises is obvious. It is the line of least resistance. ‘f’ requires less work for the tongue. We all do some of this. ‘Doesn’t’ for ‘does not’ is a short cut the middle and upper classes have accepted: ‘Funder’ for ‘thunder’ is not. In any case, ‘funder’ is a local phenomenon, rather than a national one. You will hear folk from Manchester and the North of England say “thoonder”. But this accent is not frowned on!

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