How can I use phrase "For that matter"?
Ex: I started going to gym and wake up early for that matter. Is it ok?
Can you shed some light on it with a few examples?
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For that matter is used to
show that a statement is true in another situation:
Ming's never been to Spain, or to any European country for that matter.
In your example sentence, "I started going to gym and wake up early for that matter."
You probably want to give the reason for waking up early (because you go to gym). In this case it would be better to say "so" or "that's why".
"I started going to gym so I wake up early."
"I started going to gym that's why I wake up early."
So is an adverb one of its meanings is
for this or that reason; hence; therefore:
She is ill, and so cannot come to the party.
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Thank you for your answer. Can you please just tell me difference b/w this & above sentence Ming's never been to Spain, or to any European country. If I remove 'for that matter'.– r15Commented Aug 21, 2018 at 10:23
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The meaning stays the same. "for that matter" just emphasises that Ming has never been to any European country– bookmanuCommented Aug 21, 2018 at 10:26
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@Arvindraja also take a look at ell.stackexchange.com/questions/13602/… which is on our sister site as ws2 recommended– bookmanuCommented Aug 21, 2018 at 10:31
It is OED sense 3e of that use of matter as an indeterminate noun, "comparable to thing".
For that matter is an idiomatic equivalent of so far as that is concerned.
The full OED entry is as follows:
3e. (as) for that matter: so far as that is concerned (more recently also introducing an additional supporting observation, esp. one offered in refutation of a position).
1575 G. Gascoigne Glasse of Gouernem. iv. iii. sig. Ji Dicke. I trust maister Philosarchus fees will be sufficient to set both thee and me a floate, and make vs as braue as the best. Eccho. Tushe, as for that matter, if he do not another shall.
a1633 F. Godwin Man in Moone (1638) 3 Mine enemies gave it out to my disgrace that I was his horse-keepers boy. But for that matter I shall referre my selfe unto the report of the Count.
1673 Dryden Marriage a-la-Mode iii. ii. 47 Pala. But who told you I was here?..Rho. O, for that matter, we had intelligence.
1693 W. Congreve Old Batchelour iv. iv. 42 No, no, for that matter—when she and I part, she'll carry her separate-maintenance about her.
1758 C. Lennox Henrietta II. iii. i. 6 Nay, for that matter..I may draw myself into another premune perhaps.
1791 A. Radcliffe Romance of Forest i. 17 La Motte..now earnestly begged to know if his family were safe. ‘O! as for that matter they are safe enough.’
1815 C. I. Johnstone Clan Albin I. xiv. 206 ‘Nay, for that matter,’ said Moome,—‘Sky [i.e. Skye] was always namely for witches.’
1863 E. C. Gaskell Sylvia's Lovers III. vii. 108 Kinraid were just fell again him, and as for that matter, so was I.
1898 Times 10 Jan. 13/3 The..shivering drivers..who (like every one else, for that matter) had to lie out in it [sc. the rain] without tents.
1913 J. Conrad Chance i. i. 14 Don't you think that my colleague..wouldn't like to go up to this desk..four years in advance?.. Or even one year for that matter.
1983 P. Marshall Praisesong for Widow i. 10 Her mind wasn't even in her body, or for that matter, in the room.
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@WS2- Thank you for answer. But you explained it in very high level. I didn't understand examples as those are out of context for me, moreover they have centuries like 1575..etc. Starting of answer _It is OED sense 3e of _ It's very tough still figuring out what was that 3e, OED, esp., 1575 G. Gascoigne Glasse of Gouernem. iv. iii. sig. Ji Dicke & why they need here. :)– r15Commented Aug 21, 2018 at 9:52
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@Arvindraja The OED is the Oxford English Dictionary, perhaps the world's leading authority on the English language, as it is spoken around the world, together with the history and etymology of words. EL & U is for serious linguists. If you are a relative beginner, you may find the sister site, English Language Learners, helpful.– WS2Commented Aug 21, 2018 at 10:00