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I am looking for one word to describe my parent's children, in relation to myself. Siblings does not cut it in my opinion as I am not part of my siblings. In French there is the word fratrie that would qualify, but I could not find any English equivalent.

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The question arose first in the context of computing (so no 'awkward' relationship like half-brother) to name a method, hence the 'single word' request because a multi-word description would not work. I then became irked to not find the word I was looking for, specially as there is such a word in French. The question thus goes way beyond computing, I still do not know how to refer about my brothers and myself together in one word.

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  • What is the sentence or thought you're trying to compose? And do you mean that if you said fratrie in French, people would understand that you have also included yourself in the grouping? – Teacher KSHuang Jan 26 '17 at 7:58
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    “My parents’ children” (assuming you have the same set of parents, that is—once you start adding in half-siblings, it gets more complicated). – Janus Bahs Jacquet Jan 26 '17 at 7:58
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    The title clearly conflicts with the recent edit. You want a term that you can use in a computer programme, correct? You're not asking about filial relationships, are you? – Mari-Lou A Jan 26 '17 at 11:41
  • 'Siblings' is fine if the speaker is not part of the family. – Mitch Jan 26 '17 at 12:23
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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because questions related to computer method/variable naming are off-topic. – Hot Licks Jan 26 '17 at 20:11
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My Concise Hachette doesn't even give the word, but Collins Cambridge French to English online simply translates it as brothers and sisters.

Toute la fratrie s'est réunie translates as All the brothers and sisters are here.

So I'm afraid there isn't such a word in English -of that you can be fairly sure.

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    What wrong with saying All the siblings are here? – Mari-Lou A Jan 26 '17 at 11:44
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    If you think about it, just like 'brother' or 'sister', 'siblings' is almost always used with reference to a person eg 'my siblings', 'her siblings' which implicitly but necessarily eliminates the referent from consideration. 'My siblings' does not include me. 'Brother' is defined as a male child of my parents ... who is not me, 'sibling' similarly. So "All my siblings are home" does not include 'myself'. But if you (or the referent) are not part of that set, then I think 'siblings' works. (but that does not seem to be what the OP is looking for). – Mitch Jan 26 '17 at 13:48
  • @Mari-LouA Probably nothing at all. But it is not a direct translation of fratrie which the OP seems to be seeking. – WS2 Jan 26 '17 at 18:44
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I think the original point is that one might say "my fraterie were all present" (were fraterie an English word) with the sense that the speaker is included. But "My siblings were all present" or "My offspring were all present" would not bear this sense, because the speaker is not one of his own siblings or offspring. Could I suggest cohort, not a graceful word but a word I did find used with we in this quotation (from an online article in Forbes Magazine on Apr 9, 2013 @ 08:08 AM, My Cohort Believes QE Only Benefits the Nation's Wealthiest): "And yes, I got the feeling my cohort last night felt to varying degrees that we could well experience another meltdown..."

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Since you seem to want a term that refers to a singular group rather than individuals, I would suggest something like fraternity might be as close as you'll get. It shares the same etymology as fratrie, and while it generally means brotherhood in the figurative sense and not literal siblings, perhaps it's appropriate here.

  • A good word, but this answer would be better if it included a definition and reference. – AndyT Jan 26 '17 at 20:19
  • In the US "fraternity" is a bunch of drunken college students. – Hot Licks Jan 27 '17 at 12:37
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Is offspring not the word you are looking for?

from the wiktionary

  1. A person's daughter(s) and/or son(s); a person's children

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  1. (computing) A process launched by another process

Usage notes

  • The form offsprings is also used for the plural, especially the computing sense.
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    Offspring is in relation to my parents, not to myself. I could use my parent's offspring, but that is not better than my parent's children in my context. – Guillaume Jan 26 '17 at 10:29
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    @Guillaume okay. Then perhaps reconsider siblings. You seem to reject it because "he is my sibling" does not include you. However, "we are siblings" does. – RichF Jan 26 '17 at 10:36
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kins is the only one in my head that fits your description.

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    The way I see it, kins has the same issue as siblings, it does not include self. – Guillaume Jan 26 '17 at 10:31
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    There's no plural for 'kin' as it is a mass noun, right? – Mitch Jan 26 '17 at 12:21
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    Kin is too broad. It is wider in meaning than "family" which would include your parents, grandparents, spouse, children, grandchildren and, probably, your nieces and nephews. The only answer I can see for the OP is my siblings and me (or I depending on context). – BoldBen Jan 26 '17 at 15:25
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    @Mitch: When I saw the answer using kins (with an s), I immediately thought to comment on it — until I saw that you beat me to it (by slightly under a day). But, as kin is similar in meaning to family (and clan), I don’t see why it couldn’t be pluralized in contexts like, “The Smith kin and the Jones kin got together and had a battle of the kins.” OTOH, spell-check doesn’t like kins. – Scott Jan 27 '17 at 7:53

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