It occurred to me while reading the line "He was as happy as could be." that part of it is quite vague. As happy as he could be, or as anything could be? I'm not a linguist or anything, but I haven't been able to think of anything that follows a similar pattern, without following the pattern exactly (as in the title of the question).

Regardless of how well it is understood by others or how often it is used (unless this affects the answer), is a phrase like this bad grammar?

  • Oh dear. If you have problems with that one, you're hardly going to be happy with as Happy as Happy Could Be! Commented Jul 20, 2011 at 2:56
  • 2
    "How well it is understood by others or how often it is used" will affect every answer given by any linguist ever. "Bad grammar" is a misconception and a misnomer; there is no such thing. Please read this answer that explains it better than I ever could in a comment.
    – RegDwigнt
    Commented Jul 20, 2011 at 9:03
  • @RegDwight: That is an excellent answer. I never thought of grammar like that. Thanks. Commented Jul 20, 2011 at 22:20

4 Answers 4


Well, there's no God-given list of pieces of grammar that are "bad" vs pieces of grammar that are "good"-- just people who invent arbitrary reasons for labelling things as such and then other people who decide to agree with those reasons.

So, you've invented your arbitrary reason for deciding it's "bad" grammar. You just need to decide to agree with yourself and you're done...

  • Ha, never thought of it like that, but that really makes sense. Thanks. Commented Jul 20, 2011 at 22:19

A similar pattern would be "He was as happy as is possible".

No he or anybody there either, but it is implied.

  • Or "He was as happy as it's possible for happy to be". The implied thing with maximum happiness needn't be a person at all - it can just be the word (or the concept represented by that word). Commented Jul 20, 2011 at 3:39

If you pair it with a superlative, e.g. "perfect as could be," it would be redundant, but other than that I don't see any problem with it.

  • Perfect is not a superlative.
    – RegDwigнt
    Commented Jul 20, 2011 at 8:31
  • If you use a classifying, absolute or extreme adjective ... it wouldn't make sense. Commented Nov 8, 2015 at 10:09

Sometimes in English we have phrases that have been in use for so long, that some words have been dropped out. My guess is that the commonly used phrase "He was as happy as could be" is an ellipsis of something along the lines of

He was as happy as [he] could [ever have expected he could/might] be.

Possibly the words were eliminated because of the two 'could's, and/or also because the phrase was used so much that people developed a sense of what others meant. I would guess that there are quite a lot of other examples like this, if we dig around.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.