Simplified Core Issue of Question:
Do matters of opinion always fall under the umbrella of "subjective" by default?
If everyone in the world were an identical clone,
then would opinions be considered objective?
(assume they share all thoughts + opinions about all subjects)
(assume this will not change)
(focus on the meaning of "objective", rather than the philosophy of the hypothetical)
Rephrased: does "subjective" still encompass opinions when an opinion is universal.
(regarding when to use "objective" vs "subjective")
Background: I ask this because I have always seen the word subjective used to mean the subject referenced "is a matter of opinion", or "up for debate".
But if there is no disagreement, never has been disagreement, and there will continue to be no disagreement, it's not "up for debate". I don't know how to incorporate this nuance into my present understanding of what "subjective" means.
Basically, can matters of opinion (contrast with verifiable, or measurable matters of fact) ever cross over to "objective"? or do they remain "subjective" even when you have a situation where every individual agrees.
"Everyone agrees that causing pain, for its own sake, is morally bad."
In a (hypothetical) world where everyone has always, currently, and in the future will agree to something, do you still call this matter subjective or does it become objective when it is universally agreed upon?
@ put on hold as unclear what you're asking:
I thought this was straightforward,
but I have clarified and added more information
- why I asked this (not in jest)
- the nuance (/distinction) I was unsure about
- an application that shows how this question is important