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I wonder if it is correct to say "some same thing/person", in order to mean some thing/person same as the one just mentioned earlier? If not, what is the correct way to express the meaning?

My concern is that: is "same" always preceded with "the"?

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    An example would be useful – mplungjan Jun 27 '11 at 5:35
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My concern is that: is "same" always preceded with "the"?

Yes, "same" is always preceded with "the". This is not always the case in speech e.g. "Same thing here". But this is actually a case of elision of the word "the".

In writing, however, "the" always precedes "same" i.e. "it is same thing" is incorrect, and should be "It is the same thing."

You could however, still use "some", as in:

Some of the same thing/ person

But "the" is still needed to precede "same"

  • In which sentence would you use "some of the same (person)"? – kiamlaluno Jun 27 '11 at 6:17
  • The criminals in this case were some of the same persons involved in the previous one. – Thursagen Jun 27 '11 at 7:24
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    You used "some of the same persons," not "some of the same person." Isn't persons in official and formal contexts? – kiamlaluno Jun 27 '11 at 15:21
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"Some same person" is not correct. You should say "the same person," or "some of the same people."

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