Please provide your comments regarding my interpretations for each example.
The first example:
Speaker A: Do you know he was killed by a knife?
Speaker B: Oh really!! I thought he was killed by a baseball bat.
Interpretation: Speaker B was at the scene the moment the murder happened and witnessed the murder.
The second example:
Speaker A: Do you know that Mr. Jackson died in an accident?
Speaker B: Oh really!!I thought he had been murdered by a thief.
Interpretation: Speaker B wasn't at the scene and he got the false news later.
The reason for my second interpretation is that first something must happen before we can think of it and based on past perfect,the first action is past perfect and the second is simple past.
Is the verb think considered a second action??
And another issue, Which of the speaker B's reactions are right?
Speaker A: Do you know Einstein was a gay?
Speaker B1:Really! I thought he was a straight.
B2:Really! I thought he had been a straight .
B3:Really! I would have thought he had been a straight
B.4:Really!I would have thought he was a straight.
Above,What is the difference between thought and would have thought ? Is 'would have thought' used for the past to show that the information wasn't something that mattered to us and we didn't think about it?is it continuing of if it had occurred to me I would have thought....?
My last issue,regarding the third conditional which of the examples are true?
Let's suppose a friend of yours hadn't helped an old man cross a street yesterday, and you'd like to express your opinion. Which one would you say:1.If I were you I would have helped that old man.
2.If I had been you I would have helped that old man.
I would be extremely grateful if you answered my questions.