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This is a follow-up question to this one and I understand the difference between "there" and "here".

I understand "there" functions differently from the adverb "here", but it leads to another question. It might sound too basic, but I believe it is relevant to why there could be some uncertainty in accepting there as a subject.

  1. If you Google search "There is a dog in the house" and "There is my dog in the house", there is not a single hit for the latter, zero, nothing, nada while I get 738,000 hits for the former. You get 258,000 hits for "My dog is in the house".

  2. If you Google search "There is a cat in the house" and "There is my cat in the house", still you get no hit for the latter and 358,000 hits for the former. You get 767,000 hits for "My cat is in the house".

You don't find any results for "There is my dog in his/her/our/their house", either.

Apparently, there doesn't seem to be used when determiner "my" (or other possessives) is used for a noun.

Another flaw, if you like, is a subject-verb agreement.

There sometimes takes a singular "be" for a "plural noun" that follows it. As @John Lawler pointed out in the answer

There's one biscuit left ~ There's a unicorn in the garden ~ There's someone here to see you. (One can say There is, but it's far commoner to start a There-Insertion sentence with There's -- even when the postposed subject is plural -- There's some people here to see you).

There are some people here to see you is much more broadly used as the below shows.

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My question is:

  1. Is the subject "there" as a "dummy subject" flawed as the above-mentioned points seem to suggest?

  2. Using a singular verb "be" before a "plural" noun ungrammatical?

  3. Why is there no usage of "there is my dog in the house"?

Note: I am reluctant to ask the third question and please disregard it if you consider it to be "too basic a question".

Thank you!

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    Uh, remember that no one would say "There is my dog." It would be "There's my dog."
    – Hot Licks
    Commented Nov 10, 2015 at 13:16
  • @HotLicks I just Googled it and found no hit for "There's my dog in the house."
    – user140086
    Commented Nov 10, 2015 at 13:18
  • Well, no one's gonna say that either. "There's a dog in my house" gets a bunch of hits.
    – Hot Licks
    Commented Nov 10, 2015 at 13:20
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    Actually, "There's my dog, in the house" (with a comma) might be said in an exasperated voice after searching through the woods fruitlessly.
    – Andrew Leach
    Commented Nov 10, 2015 at 13:23
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    There-Insertion transforms a subject noun phrase with be into a predicate NP. However, the rule can only apply to indefinite predicate noun phrases, like a unicorn or some people. What it all means, @Rathony, is that the grammatical concept of "subject" is useful for some things, but in fact it's made up of a number of usually overlapping features, which can get separated by one process or another. When that happens, as here, you get ambivalent test results, and ambivalent "feelings" about what the Subject should really be. Commented Nov 10, 2015 at 14:02

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  1. I can't see any reason to doubt its function as subject in existential constructions. I wouldn't call its function 'dummy subject', though, as that implies it is not the syntactic subject, which it clearly is.

  2. Existential there is an unusual subject; it has no inherent number, but takes on the number of the displaced subject:

There were some keys near the safe. (plural with were)

There was a nurse present. (singular with was)

It’s comparable to the relative pronouns which and who, which take on the number of their antecedent (the guys who were talking vs the guy who was talking). However, in informal style, especially in present tense declaratives with reduced is, many speakers treat there as always singular: they say There’s a few problems instead of There are a few problems. Prescriptivists disapprove, but the usage is too well established to be treated as an occasional slip.

  1. There is a strong tendency for the displaced NP to be indefinite, as in There is a dog in the house, but my dog is a definite NP in There's my dog in the house, which is why it is ungrammatical (at least in most dialects). However, definite NPs are admissible provided they represent addressee-new information, as in:

A. I can't imagine what I'm going to make for dinner tonight.

B. Well, there's that leftover meatloaf.

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