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I was reading through some of the posts regarding reference to something "possessed" by more than one person, and I can't seem to find an agreement of the usage of of myself.

Is it correct to say the following?

The efforts of myself and my ilk.

I understand that something like:

The efforts of my ilk and I

is incorrect, but I'm not sure about the former. I know it's neither an intensive or reflexive use, so I assume that it is incorrect, but any clarification in this regard would be appreciated.

Thanks for your time.

Edit: While the usage of "myself" has been adequately explained elsewhere, I just wanted clarification for this particular usage. I've heard it used frequently, but I couldn't find a grammatical basis for it. I apologise for the lack of clarity.

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  • I've read that page. It's more of a general question about reflexives, than of this particular usage/phrase. – Cenglish Aug 28 '15 at 12:20
  • As the question stands, it is about reflexives, and that question covers this case. If your question is about something else, make your case. – Robusto Aug 28 '15 at 12:23
  • Sorry. I removed the reflexives tag for clarity. I was just curious about this particular phrase. – Cenglish Aug 28 '15 at 13:35
  • I retracted my close vote. There are still 3 votes pending, and it only takes 5 to close, so the question may still get closed. – Robusto Aug 28 '15 at 15:01
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The efforts of myself and my ilk.

The word 'myself' is chiefly reflexive. Thus we could say 'When I was young, I had a perception of myself as indestructible.'

'a perception of myself' works and sounds right reflexively.

'an effort of myself' doesn't work as a reflexive.

The efforts of my ilk and I

That is ungrammatical. You would not say 'the efforts of I', you would say 'my efforts' or 'the efforts of me'.

I suggest

The efforts of my ilk and me

or

My answer

The efforts of me and my ilk

I prefer the latter because the phrase 'my ilk' then refers back to the already mentioned 'me'.

Note

When we say 'of John and me', we place John first as a conventional mark of respect. However, although 'ilk' may refer to people, it isn't a person so we don't have to place it first.

  • That and intensive – Jordan Paldino Aug 28 '15 at 12:06
  • Maybe it's a regional thing, but "the effort of me" sounds odd. I can't seem to find much on its usage. It seems grammatically correct, but I've never heard it until now. – Cenglish Aug 28 '15 at 12:19
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    In that case, I suggest the longer phrase, 'my efforts and those of my ilk' – chasly from UK Aug 28 '15 at 12:22

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