Here is a phrase about supermarkets in Belgium:

The idea for brewing with bread came when 31-year-old Frenchman Sebastien Morvan talked to a friend about food waste, specifically the bread thrown away because supermarkets, eager to offer fresh bread to shoppers all day, baked until late afternoon.

My question is: what does this *until * mean? Does it include "late afternoon" or not? Can we say that the process of baking ends around 5-6 pm?

(I need to understand it because I am translating it into Russian and we don't have the notion of "late afternoon", so I have to figure out the time :))

Thanks in advance!

/source: The Manitoba Co-operator, April 23, 2015/

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In England I would say up to about 4-5 pm.

It's deliberately vague.

  • 1
    I agree, around 5pm seems to be the norm in the uk - which is probably the same as belgium - past that time and I would start using the word "evening".
    – Tarius
    Jul 31, 2015 at 20:22
  • Found a reference which supports this answer: learnersdictionary.com/qa/…
    – Tarius
    Jul 31, 2015 at 20:25
  • The 4:00 cut-off is too early. If someone told you to call anytime in the late afternoon, you'd expect that person to be in until 5:00 (or at least until 4:55), and would be annoyed if he were not.
    – ab2
    Jul 31, 2015 at 21:25
  • For a lot of us, it would also vary with the season. Hereabouts, "late afternoon" might be 3-4 pm in the winter, 6-7 pm in the summer.
    – jamesqf
    Aug 1, 2015 at 1:54

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