Is the sentence "Neither of Jack and Jill is present here" correct? I want to use "neither" and "and" in a sentence.

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The correct phrasing here would be

Neither Jack nor Jill are present here.

I think it's accepted to use "or" instead of "nor". I'm not sure if this is different for UK/US English, or whether it's grammatically as correct. I suspect it isn't as correct, formally speaking.

You used "Neither of" in your example, which would only fit in a sentence like:

Jack and Jill? Neither of them is present at the moment.

You use "Neither of" when you're using a single statement ("them") to list both people. You use "Neither A nor B" when you separately reference both people ("A", "B").

  • Neither of the support guys knew about the server issue.
  • Neither Bill nor Bob knew about the server issue.
  • Neither the nurse nor the doctor could understand the foreign patient.

I currently don't see how you can use "neither" and "and" in a single sentence to express the same meaning.


Neither has several entries in Merriam Webster;

You could use the adjective, which (ususally) excludes two-together.

Neither twin and neither of the other two brothers knew how to knit.

And the conjunction also works (but add nor)

Neither Jack and Jill, nor Hansel and Gretel got away unscathed.

And the pronoun, as a recapitulation:

Jack and Jill were neither of them exactly mountaineers.

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