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when in the presence of a doctor, is it proper to call him

Dr. "first name" or Dr. "last name" is there any rules that normally apply. I know in the military that you don't use Sargent "first name" it is always Sargent "last name" and the same with President " Barack or Obama"

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  • It depends on where you are. Some places it's the last name, others it's the first. Generally it's a compliment to be on intimate enough terms to be addressed as "Dr. Firstname", at least in Asian Englishes. – John Lawler May 21 '15 at 21:20
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    In the AmE/BrE, almost always it is Dr. Lastname. Using the other sounds very strange. – Mitch May 21 '15 at 22:03
  • HI Bruce. It's simply lastname. For Doctor. It's that simple. Only in uusual (jokey, family, advertising, or media) situations would you use the firstname. – Fattie May 22 '15 at 6:12
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In British usage, there are very few titles which are used with the first name alone: only some honorifics such as "Sir", "Lord" and "Prince". Academic, professional and occupational titles (such as "Dr", "Professor", "Constable") are always used with surname, or with both name.

I have a friend who we know as "Dr Tim", but this is a sort of friendly joke, to the people who knew him before he qualified. I would be surprised to hear anybody else refer him in this way.

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Both as a reference and as a form of address, Dr. Lastname is the most common format, as is the case with most titles in English-speaking countries (Mrs. Robinson, Cardinal Naguib, Private Benjamin, Lord Snow). But Dr. Firstname is not unheard of, and depending on the relationship you have with the doctor and the setting for your interaction (including the geographic part of the world), may be unremarkable.

Anecdotally, I would expect Title Firstname to be more common in environments where social hierarchy is stricter, and to be more common for more exclusive titles. For example, in much of the Southern US, which is more socially conservative than the country as a whole, children might address a familiar adult as Mr. Firstname or Miss/Mrs. Firstname to be friendly but respectful. I also understand this to be practiced in India and other parts of Asia. It is not at all common where I live now, in the Washington, D.C. area, nor where I grew up, in Southern California.

But in both SoCal and DC, people certainly do follow this pattern for loftier titles. At my elementary school, we addressed the chaplain as Father Patty, not Father O'Reilly (or for that matter, Father Patrick). In my brief stint as a lowly editorial assistant at the National Research Council, despite a surprisingly collegial atmosphere, I still referred to the researchers in my office as Dr. Judy or Professor Jake instead of simply Judy or Jake (too familiar), or as Dr. Chen or Professor Richardson (too distancing).

Similarly, staff in a medical office might address the doctors as Doctor Jim and Doctor Maggy even though the patients invariably address them as Doctor D'Angelo and Doctor Singh.

Address your doctor whichever way she or he prefers: that is the long and short of it. Closely related questions include Can "Mr", "Mrs", etc. be used with a first name? and First name or last name with "Sir" ; also see Disrespectful use of "mister" and How should I address a professor in the US?

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    From this answer the OP will expect to use Dr. Firstname as a default. That is quite the outlier in my experience. – Mitch May 21 '15 at 22:05
  • Well, OP didn't specify what kind of doctor and what kind of setting, but I'll edit to clarify that Dr. Lastname is the rule. – choster May 21 '15 at 22:09
  • In the US, TV and radio have Dr. Ruth, Dr. Phil, and Dr. Laura, as well as Judge Judy. But that's not typical usage. – Steven Littman May 22 '15 at 0:40

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