In the late 1970s and early 1980s, the word "freak" was used for heavy marijuana smokers (other drugs might be involved as well) in New England boarding schools and as far south as Pennsylvania.

My 16 year old son (public school New Jersey) and 50 year old colleague (public school NY) had never heard the term used.

I believe "freak out" is still used for a bad experience on drugs. But in this case, I mean simply "freak"--without any modifiers

1) Was this term used more widely than in boarding schools 25 years ago? 2) Is it still used anywhere? 3) When was it first used to mean stoner? (BTW "stoner"--a synonym, was not in use in those days, although the verb form "to get stoned" certainly was) 4) When was "stoner" as a noun first used?

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    See The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers.
    – tchrist
    Commented Nov 1, 2014 at 14:10
  • Chic "Le Freak" 1978, big hit in the UK, and in the discos. Had no idea it meant drugs, thought it meant to go crazy :)
    – Mari-Lou A
    Commented Nov 1, 2014 at 20:00
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    I remember “speed freak” and maybe “acid freak”; and of course the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers, who dabbled in all kinds of drugs though the green stuff was their favorite. Commented Nov 25, 2019 at 18:24

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Freak was common in the 70s and I was in public school.

"Freak" in slang usage connotes sexual activity or kinky sex. Urban Dictionary

  • I have heard freak used in both these senses but have only heard the sexual meaning in the past, oh, thirty years. I remember a counter culture type being called a freak back in the seventies and there is an old expression "let your freak flag fly" that refers to long hair on men, see urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=freak+flag - be careful, the last definitions on urban dictionary are NSFW, and don't strike me as authoritative. Commented Dec 3, 2014 at 2:13

To answer number one: Steely Dan has a song on their album Pretzel Logic called Charlie Freak. The song revolves around a man who sells everything he owns for drugs. So, with this example, we see that the word was used beyond boarding schools. (The album was recorded in New York, 1974.)

EDIT: Added year of song

  • So question #1 is settled by Gary and Arradras. I was surprised when I heard from talking to two colleagues (one 30, one 50), both from the NY area, that they had never heard the word. How about the remaining questions? Commented Nov 1, 2014 at 19:23
  • I'll continue looking, because I find this fascinating. If I find anything else out, I'll add it to my original post.
    – Arradras
    Commented Nov 1, 2014 at 19:26
  • Could you add the year the song was written/recorded?
    – Mari-Lou A
    Commented Nov 1, 2014 at 19:43
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    @Mari-LouA Added the year :)
    – Arradras
    Commented Nov 1, 2014 at 19:55

I can only speak of my own experience as a high schooler in 2 Chicago suburbs from 1969-1973, where “freak” was widely used to mean not just stoners but generally anyone who identified with hippy counterculture as expressed in dress, hair, speech, politics, etc. The term seemed to gradually fade away in the mid seventies as all these manifestations entered the mainstream and no longer functioned as subculture identifiers.


In short,

  1. the noun “freak” was first recorded in the 16th century and meant a sudden whim.
  2. It then became an irrational characteristic, then
  3. eccentric behaviour, then
  4. anything that was eccentric; then
  5. anything that was curiously physically abnormal, then
  6. anyone who took an abnormal or obsessive interest in anything

Most of the meanings are extant.

According to the OED,


Around the beginning of the 20th century, the meaning of freak developed to describe someone who was and enthusiast for something – the term could be either derogatory or neutral.

d. With qualifying word or phrase: one who shows great enthusiasm for the activity, person, or thing specified, as health freak, train freak, etc.; an aficionado. Cf. buff n.2 6b and fiend n. 4c colloquial (originally U.S.).

1908 Court of Appeals, State of N.Y. III. 455 He had a camera. Evidently from the evidence in this case he was one of your kodak freaks.

1959 L. Lipton Holy Barbarians i. 39 He looked more like one of those beachcomber Nature Boy health freaks than a real hipster.

Probably because of the rise in drug use in the 1960s, freak took about 60 years to be recorded in the way described, i.e. someone who is addicted or a regular user of drugs – often to the exclusion of most other things and with the concomitant lifestyle. (The earlier word had often been "fiend")

c. One who ‘freaks out’ (freak v. 3); a drug addict (see also quotes.).

[Given the history of the noun, the origin from “freak out” is uncertain – which came first?]

1967 Avatar (Boston) 1–14 Sept. 17/1 The life expectancy of the average speed-freak..is less than five years.

1969 R. R. Lingeman Drugs from A to Z 79 Freak... One who prefers a certain kind of drug, as in acid freak or meth freak... By extension, one who is obsessed with a certain way of thinking as in ‘political freak’.

Where the context makes it clear, the qualifying noun is not required.

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